I should have leveled 8671 a bit more. With 8670 I wanted to position the 
primary figures as you see them. I don’t spend s lot of time on these. They’re 
for the kids.

Paul

> On Nov 1, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Igor PDML-StR <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> A very nice set of action shots, Paul! (as we frequently witness here on the 
> list)
> 
> 
> Your comment about the way you cropped got me puzzled and intrigued,
> so, I was curious what happens in your photos in that regard.
> 
> 
> My procedure of leveling (for non-landscape-with-clear-horizon-at-infinity 
> photographs) is the opposite to what you've described:
> Usually, for the photographs that don't have a clear horizon at infinity, it 
> is hard to figure out which line is truly horizontal:
> Even a small panning away from the point where you are looking at exactly the 
> right (90 degree) angle at that horizontal feature would make that line 
> non-horizontal.
> 
> In contrast, the vertical lines remain vertical, unless you have a 
> perspective divergence/convergence (which is more prominent with 
> short-focal-length lenses).
> 
> The perspective divergence/convergence (depending on whether your viewing 
> point is below or above that vertical feature end-point) happens on the 
> sides, so, even in case of that effect present, I usually rely on the 
> vertical features in the middle of the photograph: fence poles, light poles, 
> vertical building edges, etc.
> 
> 
> So, while it is not very distracting, a few shots (e.g. 8671 with the guy 
> panning, or 8710) have the vertical lines (vertical fence poles in the 
> background) all leaning to the same side (to the left), which is non-physical.
> 
> 
> I am not saying that all photos must be leveled, some photos a better
> tilted. My comment is just on the procedure of what is the true 
> horizontal/vertical.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Igor
> 
> PS. Of course various types of distortion, e.g. barrel distortion, can affect 
> how straight the lines are. But then one has to deal with those. :)
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:00 AM Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> A small gallery of pics shot under the lights at a school stadium. Good
>> illumination, but nowhere near daylight levels. To get F8 @ 1/640th I had
>> to hoot at about ISO 30,000. The verticals are all cropped from
>> horizontals. Most pics are cropped somewhat. I think they held up fairly
>> well in terms of noise. All with K-1 and D FA 150-450.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/gallery/1109225#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1
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