Been there, done that.
On Mar 23, 2014, at 10:53 PM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cut and paste editing usually benefits from pasting.  I cut out a big part, 
> and tried to rearrange my thoughts, obviously I failed in more ways than one.
> 
> 
> On 3/23/2014 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright 
>>> scene even with a slow lens will.
>> I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re 
>> trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help.
>> 
>> 
>>> The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline.
>>> 
>>> On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote:
>>>> correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens
>>>> TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it
>>>> down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the
>>>> lens is stopped down and the shutter opens.  So a setting of F22 on an
>>>> F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with
>>>> say F8.  Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide
>>>> open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF.  I doubt
>>>> whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open
>>>> as the lens can go
>>>> 
>>>> Alastair
>>>> 
>>>> On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and 
>>>>> it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my 
>>>>>> old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 
>>>>>> 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination & also with the FA100-300 
>>>>>> f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 & see what happens. MF, of 
>>>>>> course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at 
>>>>>> f9 - f11.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alan C
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stenquist
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM
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>>>>>> Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
>>>>>> f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268&size=lg
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