LOL, " I will offer an additional photographers position to a peer " should read more like "I will often offer peer photographers a position to shoot with me" not quite sure how I stuff that up so badly.
On 16 March 2014 13:36, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm setting up my own shoots now, I have a slew of great models to > choose from and in some cases I will offer an additional photographers > position to a peer or engage less competent photographers as > assistants so that they can get some experience in studio. > > Definitely not interested in shooting fashion, there's only so much > surly I can stand in one day ;) The workshops are really well priced, > generally it's of more benefit to the photographers as a quick folio > building exercise so long as that's that way that you chose to work, > and some do make very good use of these types of events. > > The downside of TFP is as soon as a model actually gets good at being > a model they tend to want to get paid, and that's fair enough. So > generally it's far more laborious to shoot with someone TFP than it is > with paid models as they engage in workshop events. Swings and > roundabouts. > > Time and engagement though is generally the key to securing great > images, sometimes I guess it's just not a practical route. > > Cheers, > > > > > > On 16 March 2014 12:37, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> It's a good article in that it stresses the importance of connection >>> with the subject, however I don't think that the technicalities and >>> the interpersonal relationship between the subject and photographer >>> are mutually exclusive, depending on the shooting environment of >>> course. >> >> Most certainly the technical issues are still important else we'd all >> just use crappy smartphone cams and leave it at that. His point is, as >> I get it, that we need to not stop at "it's technically perfect" like >> so many of us gadget fanatics do. And in fact it's the soft gooey >> people issues that get you a better portrait than merely perfecting >> the image capturing process. >> >> >>> The worst shoots I have been involved in were at studio workshops >>> where the lighting was pre-set and near to perfect but the models came >>> thick and fast. It's like a sausage factory, one model after another, >>> one set then the next. I found that the quality of my images suffer >>> terribly if I have no time to connect with the models, technically >>> they may be flawless but they lack emotion and substance. >> >> That could be a special case though. Fashion photography -- if this is >> what it is -- is all about the _clothes_ and the not the models. The >> models are quite literally mannequins (which is what mannequin means >> in French: model) or clothes horses and they are expected to look >> blank, not engaging with the audience. >> >> Wait, I just re-read your paragraph: studio workshops. I see the >> problem here. :-) These are not designed for good photography, they >> are designed to optimize monetary returns to the organizers. That's my >> cynical take. If you want to get good shots, hire or trade with your >> own model and take your time. Forget these overcrowded workshops. >> Workshops I have attended were closer to 1-on-1. Three students, one >> teacher and an assistant, two models (plus MUA and hair). Total time >> in workshop: 6 hours. Lots of time to engage with the models, and >> everyone else in the session too. Got great expression from models. >> >> >>> On 15 March 2014 01:14, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> An important lesson to learn ... >>>> >>>> http://fstoppers.com/subject-matters-kicking-technicalities-for-content >>>> >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) > Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours > Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
