I concur. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eckehard Wegner Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011 9:48 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I'm ok
I would hope that the containment bit would only apply to regular criminals whereas this guy who is quite obviously stark raving mad would hopefully be locked away under a different law governing the treatment of the dangerously mentally ill. Either way IMO someone who murdered so many kids in cold blood wouldn't last long in prison unless locked away in solitary. We must not forget though that hate breeds hate and punishment has never brought back even a single victim. But I admit that if I was father of one of the victims I doubt I could walk past him without an attempt at his sorry life. 2011/7/26 Tanya Love <[email protected]>: > Perhaps, fortunate to a degree. But, I shudder to consider living in > a region where a monster like this could potentially be back on the > same streets that my kids inhabit in just 21 years. Even with the "containment" > period, I think that is a VERY low penalty to pay for what he has > done. I am sure that the families of those he murdered would feel the same too... > > Tan.x. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Eckehard Wegner > Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011 8:48 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: I'm ok > > Amazing: "From 1994 to 2004 the Norwegian police fired approximately > 79 shots; 48 of these were fired during the Nokas Robbery in 2004." > (from the NOKAS article). Probably closer to the LAPD's weekly throughput. > Man, you Norwegians sure are fortunate. > > 2011/7/26 Toralf Lund <[email protected]>: >> On 7/25/11 5:50, Anthony Farr wrote: >>> >>> On 25 July 2011 12:39, John Sessoms<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> One thing that's disturbing me about all this is according to news >>>> reports I've seen, the maximum sentence he can get is 21 years. He >>>> should at least be locked up the rest of his life. >>>> >>>> >>> They probably don't hand out consecutive sentences like USA courts >>> give, either. So perhaps we won't see a 2000+ year prison term >>> derived from each crime being penalised individually. One of our >>> Norwegian friends might enlighten us on that question. >> >> Correct. You can never get more than the maximum penalty for the "worst" >> offence. >> >> But, like Dag said, even though 21 years is the maximum normal >> punishment, but one can also be sentenced to "containment", which is >> indefinite, but with reassessment after a certain period, for crimes >> that "violate the life, health or freedom", where there is a clear >> risk for repeat crimes. This was used e.g. in for several convicts in >> a high-profile case a few years ago where less violence seemed to be >> involved (if you can put it that way) - see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOKAS_robbery. >> >> Some of this is also described in >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway. I believe >> the article is a bit inaccurate, but it does convey the basic principles. >> >> - Toralf >>> >>> A common ruse of prosecuters is to only charge a defendant with a >>> portion of the crime so that fresh charges can be brought after the >>> prisoner has served out his first sentence, and so on. Send him >>> down for the murders, then another bite of the cherry for the >>> bombings, plus I'm sure there'll be a veritable shopping list of >>> terrorism, impersonation of a police officer, firearms, transport of >>> dangerous goods, and as many other things as the prosecuters have >>> the creativity to define. These are all serious crimes so I don't >>> think any statute of limitations, if Norway has such a thing, would >>> come into play. If it did, then they'd simply start with the crimes >>> that > "expire" first. >>> The prosecuter could make a very long game of this. >>> >>> It's going to be a long time if ever before this man sees freedom. >>> I really can't see him on the streets in 21 years, but even if that >>> were to happen he'd be unlikely to survive a year on the outside. >>> He's made an awful lot of enemies. >>> >>> regards, Anthony >>> >>> "Of what use is lens and light >>> to those who lack in mind and sight" >>> (Anon) >>> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
