At what number do you think the exploding number of humans, with their technology and consumption, WILL make a difference to the climate? Never?
I don´t know if it has happened yet, although the erratic behavior of the climate indicates that we have come to that point. The point is: I hope we never get there. The moment we have a significant influence on the world climate we have passed the point of no return. I think we should be careful long before we reach that point. Just imagine the impact of more than 2 billion chinese and indian people being able to buy their own car, as well as getting electricity into their houses. DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 6. feb. 2011 kl. 16.54 skrev P. J. Alling: > The climate changes, it has been for the entire time life has been on earth. > We, and all other life, adapt, or die. > > Your implication is that somehow our actions make a particularly large > difference is ludicrous, and always has been. We can create localized micro > climate changes. Very little more. > > CO2 the common boogieman is a trace element. A good volcanic eruption will > add more to the atmosphere in one year than has the entire industrial > revolution, yet it the long run it barely registers. > > The best predictor of future climate is the sunspot cycle yet most "climate > scientests" completely ignore it*, because we don't have a good idea of > exactly why it works. But you know we don't have a particularly good model > of how anything in climate works. None of the common models predict the > future, none even reliably predict the past, unless you "massage" the data so > much it would make an Economist blush. > > > *That wasn't always the case, I remember learning about it in physical > science classes in Jr. High School. > > > On 2/6/2011 3:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> Could you be more specific? >> >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:54 AM, P. J. Alling<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Total Bullshit. >>> >>> On 2/6/2011 2:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>>> Wonderful! >>>> >>>> BTW, there is no such thing as "global warming." It is more correctly >>>> referred to a "climate change," and more that warming the entire >>>> planet, it is bringing us more extreme weather of all types. If we >>>> keep calling it "global warming," people suffering from unusual cold >>>> and extreme snows fall to connect what is happening to them with the >>>> world-wide changes affecting us all. >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Collin Brendemuehl >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/1/129068813376929711.jpg >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> Collin Brendemuehl >>>>> http://kerygmainstitute.org >>>>> >>>>> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" >>>>> -- Jim Elliott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! >>> >>> --Marvin the Martian. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> > > > -- > Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! > > --Marvin the Martian. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
