On Jun 14, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Godfey, with your print numbers, I'd strongly recommend doing a cost >>> comparison on the 3800 and 4880. When I did the math, between the 4800 >>> and 2400 at list, the 4800 payed for itself around 300 prints in ink >>> costs alone. The 3800's better than the 2xx0 series in ink costs (80ml >>> carts rather than $15-ish 12ml carts), but 220ml ink carts for ~$100 >>> each vs just under $70 for 80ml 3800 carts (the smaller 110ml carts >>> for the 48x0 are around $75). These are all at Canadian retail >>> pricing, but the ratio's will be similar even for discounted ink. At >>> 900+ prints a year I suspect the 4880 will quickly pay for itself. >> >> Atlex sells R3880 ink at $59.95 a tank and R2400 ink at $11.75 a tank. >> When I did the cost analysis a couple of months ago, that means the >> R3880's base cost of ink per ml was only about a 5% savings over the >> R2400, and any additional savings is likely due to the fewer >> change/clean cycles (each of which consumes another percentage of ink >> from every cartridge). That's going to take a long time (a lot of >> prints) to recover the additional cost of the printer based on the >> cost of ink (about $500). >> >> I haven't run numbers on the 3800 vs 4880. R4880 tanks are indeed much >> much larger than the R2400, and quite a lot larger than the R3880. Of >> course, I'll do the math when the time comes. The other factor will be >> how much money I have to spend, of course. Ya gotta be able to make >> the initial investment in the printer too, and have space for it and >> supplies. The R4880 takes up a LOT more room than the R2400 or R3880. >> -- >> Godfrey >> godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com > > Hmm, I'm seeing somewhat different numbers, about 15-25% actually > based on those prices (3800 at 80ml for $59.99 is about $0.75/ml, > R2400 at 11.5ml is right around $1/ml, 13ml is at 0.90/ml, I've seen > both capacities quoted for the R2400 carts, some claim 15ml but I'm > pretty sure that's too high if the refillers can only get 13ml into a > cartridge) > > Looking it up on Atlex, looks like the 110ml inks for the 4880 are > 69.99 and the 220's are 112.99. That's a piss-poor price on the 220's > btw, essentially retail (They're $113.99CDN at Henry's here in Canada) > and good pricing for the 3800's. That's about $0.53/ml in the 220's. > > Note I'm just doing the numbers here for anybody else who's interested > (like Paul) > > As to space, the 4880's designed for use on a stand and connectivity > via ethernet so it's a lot easier to find a place for than the > deskridden smaller printers. >
I'm going to go with the 2880 for a number of reasons. First, while i made thousands of prints over the past four or five years, I'm printing less these days but charging more for the prints I sell. (They go primarily to the owners of cars I shoot for magazines, and I'm no longer shooting weddings.). i also print fewer pics just for grins. I would guess that I'm down to about 150 to 200 a year. Max. I don't think I want to print larger than 13 x 19. Larger prints involve roll paper, dealing with curl and other PiA factors. Finally, a number of web sources say that while the 2880 cartridges are slightly smaller than the 2400's, it's actually a bit stingier on ink. That means I have about ten unopened, current date R2400 ink cartridges to sell. I'll let them go for $8 each plus shipping. Paul > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
