On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:16 AM, eckinator <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2010/2/19 Adam Maas <[email protected]>:
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:39 PM, paul stenquist <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Not true. No one denied the McVeigh and his Michigan MIlitia partners were 
>>> terrorists. Trying to make the label a racial issue is ridiculous.
>>>
>>> The guy in the plane was a criminal. To say he's not a terrorist is merely 
>>> a way of saying that as far as anyone can tell at this point, he's not 
>>> connected to any group plotting against our government or any other 
>>> government. He's just another angry taxpayer.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>
>> In addition, it should be notable that certain notorious terrorists
>> currently located in Chicago are quite seriously white (Bill Ayers and
>> his wife, late of the Weathermen) and pretty much all of the ELF and
>> related groups are white and very definitely terrorists, not to
>> mention Boston's favourites, the IRA. It's more an unfortunate
>> coincidence that most currently active terrorist groups tend to have
>> members who are darker of skin (although that's not always the case,
>> particularly with Islamics, alot of the Chechnyans involved in Islamic
>> terrorist groups are light-skinned, as are many Balkans or Persians,
>> and Arabs are also Caucasian, if generally on the darker side of the
>> spectrum)
>>
>> This attack does not appear to be a terrorist attack, in that it
>> doesn't appear to have been an attack designed to change government
>> policy by terrorizing innocent civilians. It appears to be a revenge
>> attack directly targeted on a particular organization by an angry and
>> not entirely well wrapped individual.
>
> I quite agree with Paul and Adam except in that I don't consider the
> Chechnyan resistance terrorist. There is Chechnyan terror as well -
> too sadly so - and it is saddening to see the resistance also
> targeting civilians but my connotation of terror includes a cause that
> is from my point of view illegitimate - which of course is a very
> daring interpretation; I realize that
>

Note I quite clearly specified the Chechnyans involved in the Islamic
terrorist groups, not the resistance movement, there is a difference
even if it's becoming increasingly small.

The cause the group supports is irrelevant to the definition of
terrorism, it's is a tactic, pure and simple, and a terrorist group is
a group which primarily uses this tactic, although non-terrorist
groups do use terrorist tactics on occasion, that does not make them
terrorists until it bcomes their primary tactic (which says nothing
about the legitimacy of the groups in question)

-- 
M. Adam Maas
http://www.mawz.ca
Explorations of the City Around Us.

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