I will agree with Bruce on the 100-300 mm F4.0 Simga, as I have the same lens 
only in Nikon mount and it works very good. But I always use it on manual 
focus..

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From: "Bruce Dayton" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:31:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: I've got a hole in me arsenal

If you are considering other options, I ended up getting the Sigma
100-300/4 EX lens a few years back.  It is excellent - has even more
reach than the Pentax 60-250 at the same speed.  It also has Internal
zoom/focus so the lens never changes length or balance - works very
well.  Just another thought.

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Best regards,
Bruce


Friday, July 10, 2009, 6:12:18 AM, you wrote:

2cn> Doug, you could look at the 70-200 MM F2.8 Simga HSM II Lens. I
2cn> bought one and like it so far. With a 1.4 convert, it will become
2cn> a 120 mm to 300 mm F4.0. Not as pricey as the 50-250 Pentax unit.
2cn> I do not have the 50-250 lens but there is one thing I do not
2cn> like. That is the way the lens opens up. long barrel comes out
2cn> from main part. I could be wrong. I know Paul has one, ask him
2cn> about that.To me that might and will get in the way when I shoot
2cn> sports in a location where there are other photographers trying
2cn> to get the same shot..I would rather have an internal focus lens..Joe
2cn> P.S. here are a couple of shot taken with the Simga just after I received 
it.

2cn> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9262999
2cn> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9401091
2cn> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9262974



2cn>    
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2cn> From: "William Robb" <[email protected]>
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2cn> Subject: Re: I've got a hole in me arsenal


2cn> ----- Original Message ----- 
2cn> From: "Doug Brewer"
2cn> Subject: I've got a hole in me arsenal


>> so I'm looking at either the DA Star 50-135mm F2.8 ED (IF) SDM or the DA 
>> Star 60-250mm F4 ED (IF) SDM and the prices are way different, 500 
>> smackers worth at B&H. Is the 60-250 really that much better, and keep in 
>> mind that linear thought and I rarely collide.
>>
>> For the difference, I could also get the 21Ltd and a grip for the K-7.
>>
>> What to do, what to do?

2cn> Doug, I didn't have to make the decisions you made, as I already have the
2cn> 21mm.
2cn> I haven't handled the 50-135 all that much. I had a pre production unit on
2cn> loan from Pentax Canada (via my pusher) for a while sometime before the 
lens
2cn> was officially released to the world, and that is my only experience with
2cn> it.
2cn>  I thought it was an excellent lens, but also a lens that shared the same
2cn> problem that I think 80-200mm lenses have on the 135 format, which is that
2cn> they just don't have enough reach for my taste.
2cn> I have an 80-200/2.8 lens which is just about the perfect telephoto zoom on
2cn> the cropped sensor camera, but for the size, a little more reach would be
2cn> nice.
2cn> This was why I was so impatient about the 60-250.
2cn> The 60-250, I am sure you have handled one, is a pretty chunky lens. Much
2cn> bigger, IIRC than the 50-135.
2cn> As far as optical quality is concerned, I doubt that there is a great deal
2cn> of difference between the 50-135 and the 60-250. Both are fine optics. I
2cn> wanted the extra reach, so I chose to wait for the 60-250.
2cn> No regrets, it's a terrific optic.

2cn> I guess, think back to your film days, did you find that often the 80-200
2cn> range of zooms was to be too short to float your boat? If so, then the
2cn> 60-250 is the answer, no doubt about it. It has plenty of reach.

2cn> Having said this, I couldn't live without the vertical grip now for what I
2cn> shoot. I've been doing a fair number of model shoots, and in this type of
2cn> photography the vertical camera orientation is what I use almost all the
2cn> time.
2cn> The grip rules.
2cn> However, if you spend most of your time shooting landscapes off a tripod,
2cn> there is no pressing reason to get the grip, so it comes down to the 21mm
2cn> lens.
2cn> Do you favour wide angle shots or long telephoto shots more?
2cn> Does your photography style allow for stiched images? If so, then you can
2cn> use a longer lens most of the time to emulate the 21.

2cn> I suspect that for most people, the 50-135 coupled with the DA21 will 
2cn> probably be the more useful lens combination..

2cn> William Robb



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