I see. Would a semi-gloss paper be a better choice (and be similar
to the semi-matte of minilabs)?
Glen
On Oct 10, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> It will(although not ideally, it's intended for pigment printers),
> but note it's a true Matte paper, not the semi-matte or pearl that
> minilabs pass off as matte paper. Matte papers are not really ideal
> for colour work unless you want a watercolour look to the print.
> You may want to look at Moab?legion's other products as well, I
> simply went with the paper I knew.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>> Thank you, Adam...
>>
>> Will the Moab 5x7 paper you mention work with the R280? I just want
>> to make sure of this.
>>
>> Though, I am somewhat disappointed, as Newegg is now out of stock on
>> the R280. I would prefer buying it from them. I know the R280 is
>> probably available (at a good price, too) at one of the popular New
>> York camera stores (B&H, Adorama, etc.), but I would rather not
>> purchase it from these stores.
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>>> The 4490 is likely a better choice to start than the 4990, unless
>>> you're already shooting Large Format. You'll also want to pick up
>>> some 35mm ANR inserts from betterscanning.com, they massively
>>> improve 35mm scans from flatbeds. You'll want 2 for the 4490. Note
>>> Epson.com has refurbs right now for $99.
>>>
>>> The printer will come with a set of ink carts. So you won't be
>>> buying ink right away. If you intend to do large amounts of
>>> printing, a R2400 or up will quickly pay for itself in Ink (the
>>> R2400's in costs are about 1/4 the cost of an R280's, due to the
>>> cartridges holding a lot more ink than the low-end cartridges. Note
>>> that a high-end printer like the Epson 4800 is even cheaper, at
>>> about 1/3 of the cost of the R2400. The cost difference between
>>> those two is about 250 8x10's).
>>>
>>> Your best bet if you like 5x7's is to print 2 to a page and cut
>>> down. Most papers are available in 8.5x11 and larger only. A few
>>> are available in 5x7, Moab papers in particular are available in
>>> 5x7 (Entrada bright is a superb matte art paper).
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>> I am considering buying a scanner (and a photo inkjet, too). I do
>>>> not like being pigeon-holed to the 8.5x11 size, or having to cut my
>>>> prints in order to attain different sizes. I mention 8.5x11
>>>> because
>>>> this is clearly the most popular print paper size, and it is
>>>> also the
>>>> only one (at least in Epson's line) that comes in matte with
>>>> borders. I would prefer 5x7, and I dislike glossy prints. I
>>>> mention
>>>> Epson because their R280 printer seems like a great value.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, what do yo recommend for a scanner? I believe someone
>>>> mentioned something with 4990 in the model number (Epson perhaps?).
>>>> Again, the scanner route is still questionable for me. While it
>>>> has
>>>> its advantages--in terms of control of print quality, etc.--it, to
>>>> me, seems like it is rather limiting, too. Then there is the
>>>> *total*
>>>> start-up cost that few, with the exception of Rebekah, seem to
>>>> acknowledge. Yes, the printer is $99, but then ink for it is about
>>>> $70, a scanner is probably $200-$300, and then there is that
>>>> calibration software, and what else...? I consider all of this in
>>>> light of: 8.5x11 for everything, unless I am willing to start
>>>> cutting...Hmm...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>>> Anyway, in the years we have done this, our results with print
>>>>>> processing have been very good. I wish they would offer good B&W
>>>>>> print C-41 processing, though. Those two rolls with the purplish
>>>>>> tint disappointed me. Perhaps print B&W C-41 is just too
>>>>>> strange an
>>>>>> animal? I have been thinking of leaving my color print
>>>>>> processing to
>>>>>> W-M, and trying A&I mailers for my B&W prints. Overall, their
>>>>>> prices
>>>>>> are rather high (though not more than the "pro" shops), but since
>>>>>> they charge only $1.50 a roll more for traditional print B&W
>>>>>> ($15.50
>>>>>> vs. $17.00), I may opt for that. I have heard that their work is
>>>>>> excellent ("Old Grumpy" had endorsed them). I welcome any
>>>>>> further
>>>>>> thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've had inconsistent results with Wal-Mart's in house processing.
>>>>> Thus, everything goes into their send-out bin, even the C-41
>>>>> stuff. It
>>>>> seems that quality is variable by store and by staff. Fuji is
>>>>> much
>>>>> more
>>>>> consistent. Basically, if you put your film in one of their 1-
>>>>> hour
>>>>> envelopes they're going to process it in the store. As far as
>>>>> I can
>>>>> tell, anything that's not in a 1-hour envelope goes to Fuji and
>>>>> takes a
>>>>> few days, at least. Perhaps Bill can confirm this.
>>>>>
>>>>> C-41 B&W is tricky and most mini-labs don't do it well. Wal-
>>>>> Mart, as
>>>>> well as Target, Costco, Rite-Aid, etc., are probably going to
>>>>> print it
>>>>> on the same paper they print everything else on. You're going to
>>>>> have a
>>>>> color cast. I used to send film to a mail order outfit called
>>>>> Clark
>>>>> Color (I believe they're affiliated with York Photo). They would
>>>>> print
>>>>> C-41 B&W and traditional B&W on traditional black and white paper.
>>>>> They
>>>>> have since gone to a production inkjet system that really sucks.
>>>>> Your
>>>>> best bet is to get a scanner and scan/print the stuff yourself.
>>>>>
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