The handling of the 645N and 645NII are superb (Better than my Mamiya's, 
Although I do like the Mamiya 645AFDII even more), the original 645 is 
IMHO compromised by the use of the ME Super 2-button interface (I'm not 
a big fan) but still handles well overall. Build is plastic-covered 
metal, which is the norm for 645-format SLR's.

645's are the weight of a pro 35mm SLR, and only somewhat bulkier. 
They're very handholdable, I regularly handhold down to 1/60th with my 
old M645, and have tried the 645 Super at 1/30th (roll is still in the 
camera, so we'll see). The Pentax 645's are every bit as handholdable as 
my Mamiya's.

You aren't into tripod-only territory with either of the Pentax MF 
SLR's. Only the Mamiya RB & RZ's are truly tripod-bound (Although it's 
probably a good idea with a Bronica GS as well)

-Adam

Glen Tortorella wrote:
> Thank you for your thoughts, Adam.  Medium format is an intriguing  
> option.  I will continue to ponder the matter.  How do you like  
> handling the 645 (i.e. the "feel" of it)?  Is it more of a "tripod  
> only" type of camera, or may one take good hand-held shots with it?   
> Does the design include any plastic (like the top plate on my Super  
> Program) or is it all metal?
> 
> Regards,
> Glen
> 
> On Aug 31, 2007, at 8:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> 
>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I went to a somewhat "local" camera shop today to buy film.  In one
>>> of the used cases sat a Pentax 645.  It looked like it was in nice
>>> shape, and it came with a lens...I am not sure which one, though.
>>> Anyway, they are asking $560 for it.  I have had at least some
>>> interest in the medium format domain ever since I saw my friend's
>>> Hasselblad back in 1997.  Since it seems like an expensive pursuit, I
>>> have held out on buying a medium format setup.  Any comments, folks?
>>> I know little about this type of photography, and I would appreciate
>>> any comments--either about the features of the 645 itself, or about
>>> medium format photography (i.e. associated issues and "things to keep
>>> in mind").
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Glen
>>>
>> Nice kit, a bit pricey, unless it's an N or NII(AF body).
>>
>> I'm a fan of the 645 format. It's big enough to get a really noticable
>> quality boost over 35mm, but the camera's aren't any heavier than a  
>> 35mm
>> pro AF body like an F5 or EOS 1v.
>>
>> I actually just picked up a Mamiya 645 Super kit today, for $800cdn  
>> off
>> a friend. Got the 45/2.8, 80/2.8, 150/3.5, the body, AE prism N,  
>> Winder
>> N, a standard prism, 2 backs and 3 inserts (2x120, 1x220). Quite a  
>> good
>> price, and it replaces my older M645 which is back in the shop (I also
>> own a 55/2.8 N and another 80/2.8 along with a prism for my older  
>> 645).
>>
>> The Pentax units have several features built-in that are  
>> accessories on
>> the Mamiya and Bronica 645's (Metering prisms, winders, backs).  
>> This is
>> generally a plus for the metering and winding, but the individual  
>> backs
>> are a bonus (that's one reason I upgraded to a Super from my M645,  
>> some
>> Mamiya bodies, including the M645, have integrated backs like the  
>> P645,
>> the others being increased reliability and the price was right).
>>
>> -Adam
>>
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