John Francis wrote:

>On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:01:26AM -0600, Tom C wrote:
> >
> > So it seems to boil down to...
> >
> > 1. Did the universe have a beginning?
>
>Yes
>
> > 2. If so, did that beginning have a cause?
>
>Yes (probably).  Call it "the rules of time/space"
>
> > 3. If so, was it caused by 1) something eternal or 2) someone eternal?
>
>Neither of the above.  Both are meaningless concepts.
>Time doesn't exist except as a part of the universe.
>

So someone or something, if some prefer, that exists outside of what we call 
the universe (cosmologists speculate that something must have pre-existed it 
and caused the initial BANG some 14 billion years ago), could/would 
logically not be bound by this universe's rules of space-time, assuming 
theories on space-time are conceptually sound.  In that realm, time might 
have no meaning, and therefore our concepts of beginning and ending may be 
meaningless there.

At least that's where my thoughts lead when pondering the subject.

Tom C.



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