Therein lies a problem in discussing the subject. Definitions. Tom C.
>From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:53:02 +0100 > >Hoyle is presenting a false dichotomy in that argument. In essence he >says (in that quote) that life arose either by random chance, or by >intelligent design, and these are the only options available. They may >be the only options he could think of, but they're certainly not the >only ones available. Evolution is another option. If Hoyle thought >evolution was random chance then he clearly didn't understand >evolution. > >-- > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Tom C > > Sent: 13 June 2007 23:33 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted > > > > graywolf wrote: > > > > > > > >Hard to accept that you are not somehow special, isn't it. > > Personally I > > >believe random chance over >millions of years is the simplest >answer. > > > > > > > > > Noted British Astonomer Fred Hoyle wrote (note I'm using this > > as an example > > of a noted and respected scientist, not that I agree with > > everything he says > > or that he's always correct... who is?) > > > > "if one proceeds directly and straightforwardly in this > > matter, without > > being deflected by a fear of incurring the wrath of > > scientific opinion, one > > arrives at the conclusion that biomaterials with their > > amazing measure or > > order must be the outcome of intelligent design." > > > > Hoyle calculated that the chance of obtaining the required > > set of enzymes > > for even the simplest living cell was one in 10 *40,000 > > power. Since the > > number of atoms in the known universe is infinitesimally tiny > > by comparison > > (10 *80 power), he argued that even a whole universe full of > > primordial soup > > wouldnt have a chance. He claimed: The notion that not only > > the biopolymer > > but the operating program of a living cell could be arrived > > at by chance in > > a primordial organic soup here on the Earth is evidently > > nonsense of a high > > order. > > > > Hoyle compared the random emergence of even the simplest cell to the > > > likelihood that "a tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might > > assemble a > > Boeing 747 from the materials therein." Hoyle also compared > > the chance of > > obtaining even a single functioning protein by chance > > combination of amino > > acids to a solar system full of blind men solving Rubik's Cube > > simultaneously. > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
