No one predicted the details of what would happen Peter.  How could they?

Pentax's camera division turnaround was still a drop in the bucket, both 
volume-wise and profit-wise compared to their competiton in the industry, 
and that competition has the means to force the smaller companies to their 
knees in a price/profit war.

It was simply suggested that Pentax appeared to be in trouble financially, 
and that the future was uncertain.  They could exist as a small-time player 
for some period of time independently, they could go away, or the 
brand/mount could survive with the assistance of another company, 
Sony-Minolta fashion.


Tom C.


>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Don't want to sound too alarmist but...
>Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:36:24 -0400
>
>Pentax is being forced to sell out to Hoya by the Japanese equivalent of
>a Corporate Raider brought in as a White Knight, after they began to
>turn their Camera Business around.  That seems to be the exact opposite
>of what Herb was predicting.
>
>Tom C wrote:
> >> On 21/05/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm just tired of all those who spend so much time watching the sky
> >>> to see if it's falling. If I were inclined to dump my Pentax gear, I
> >>> would do it now. But I'm not going to. It works quite well, thank
> >>> you. A yawn is appropriate.
> >>>
> >> Rob Studdert wrote:
> >>
> >> It's not really, this is a conversation about Pentax on a Pentax
> >> discussion list. Try to exercise just a little empathy, granted
> >> Pentax's future is not entirely clear at the moment. However consider
> >> for just a moment that some others here may not be made of money and
> >> may have had to save and sacrifice to buy into the Pentax system and
> >> as such are simply concerned that it may not have a future. Surely
> >> scenarios are worth discussion.
> >>
> >
> > Remember Rob.  This is America, where one has the freedom to suppress
> > other's freedom of speech if they don't like it.  And the one who shouts
> > longest and hardest wins.
> >
> > It is a Pentax list and Pentax is being discussed.  Nobody has ever
> > suggested dumping Pentax gear except the guys that are also saying 
>they're
> > not going to dump it.
> >
> > I wasn't ever going to say this, but I guess I will now.  For all those 
>that
> > have been ridiculing the so-called Chicken Littles on the list who are
> > supposedly claiming the sky is falling by discussing Pentax's financial
> > condition in comparison with the industry...
> >
> > Well, guess what? The sky IS falling.  Two or more years ago those 
>taunts
> > were voiced when Herb (who has in depth knowledge of the camera industry
> > financials), Rob Studdert, and myself were discussing Pentax's future.  
>At
> > that time we suggested the outlook wasn't good and if things didn't 
>change,
> > Pentax was possibly headed the same way as companies like Contax, Ricoh, 
>or
> > Minolta. We suggested that they good possibly either cease to exist or 
>that
> > they may be acquired or taken over.  None of us knew what was going to
> > happen and none of us outright predicted what would happen. There was no
> > prescience.
> >
> > So a scenario quite similar to what we were talking about two years ago 
>is
> > now taking place, has been in progress for the last 6 months or so, and 
>is
> > in the front page Japanese financial news.  And what's happening? 
>There's
> > still folks on this list that are spouting the same "Chicken Little", 
>"Sky
> > is falling" rhetoric as they were two years ago (hoping to sqaush
> > discussion) before Pentax penned a deal with Samsung, and before rumors 
>and
> > news of a Hoya/Pentax merger.
> >
> > I rest my case.
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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