Sure.  I understand that.  It depends whether one is quantitatively 
measuring the results from an entire camera system, or essentially just the 
recording component of that system (i.e sensor and in-camera raw 
processing).

I readily admit that quantitative tests of the recording mechanism (i.e., 
tests/comparisons of raw output with no variation in lens) is meaningful.  
That measurement and analysis will translate across all lenses and has 
value.

By the same token, tests/comparisons of camera systems as a whole, have 
meaning and value, as they enable real world comparisons to be made, as 
opposed to theoretical performance that may/may not be matched in real 
world, hand-on use.

I think dpreview has simply chosen to highlight the latter, since they 
figure most viewers of their site live in the real world. ;-)


Tom C.


>From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>If they used a different film for each camera they tested back in the
>old days, "The Leica with Tri-X was worse grain than the Contax with
>Kodachrome II", you would have about what you have now.
>
>The norm for testing a 35mm camera was to use the manufactures best 50mm
>lens, and Kodachome 25. That leveled the playing field. You can not have
>a meaningful comparison if there are no basic similarities. The more
>variables you can eliminate the more meaningful the test.
>
>However, since lens and recording media are the things being measured
>you need to standardize one or the other. Since testing a digital camera
>is more like testing film you need to standardize the lens to get a
>meaningful result. It is like comparing Fujichrome and Kodachrome by
>shooting the film in two entirely different systems.
>
>-graywolf
>
>
>Tom C wrote:
>
> >
> > I can just hear it back in the pre-internet film days.  "They weren't 
>using
> > the same roll of film in those tests". "What if the emulsion wasn't from 
>the
> > same batch?". "How do we know the film was scanned properly?" "How do we
> > know the printed photo on the magazine page is an accurate 
>representation of
> > the original?
>
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