In a message dated 5/4/2007 10:53:34 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I guess if you want to  classify my not caring for a particular shot as an 
emotional reaction you  may be right.  But there's a distinction between 
feeling indifferent  towards a shot and having the shot move a person, 
generating an emotional  response.

I don't tire of nature/landscape shots showing no trace of  man's footprint 
because 1) I like it that way and 2) that's one aspect of  photography, 
cropping out what we don't WANT to see in the photograph (as is  including 
those elements we wish to see).

I can appreciate (even  though it may not be your expressed theme) the 
juxtaposition/intertwining of  man and his natural surroundings.  I guess 
what your photos don't do  for me, is emphasize that enough.  The shots are 
possibly too regular,  too normal, too everyday vantage, that they fail to 
move me.  There is  no impact. Out of those you shared, the only other one 
besides "Stop", that  has an impact for me is the oak under the power lines.  
There is a fair  amount of contrast (not light/dark photographically 
speaking) in the two  main components of the photo, that it has meaning.  I 
don't really like  the shot, but it does have some meaning.

>Do I have to have one theme?  As a  dyslexia, nope, I usually don't have one
>theme or one point. I  usually have more  than one.

So maybe I don't understand your theme.  Or maybe you don't have a clear one, 
or maybe it's TOO multi-faceted for me  to get it.  As a suggestion though, 
any presentation whether oral or  visual that has a theme should have a clear 
theme so that the audience gets  the point of it and each component of the 
presentation should reemphasize  the theme.  Otherwise, the point, if there 
is one, can get  lost.

One scene from a movie that has always stuck with me is the opening  moments 
of Joe vs. The Volcano.  There's a beautiful tiny flower  growing in a crack 
in the pavement in front of the hideous Anal Probe  factory. It's survived 
for days or weeks, then get's trampled under foot,  gone in an instant.

Anyway I didn't mean to get you upset, and my  reactions were not a criticism 
of you, so please don't take them that way,  if you did.

Tom C.

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So? I am still a newbie  photographer (at least in my own eyes). And I am 
trying a new thing (for me).  

Thus I may not always "get it." I may, in fact, be mediocre a lot of the  
time. I am with other shots not concerning my series. So I make absolutely no  
apologies for that. I also have a concept in mind, involving collages/montages  
of more documentary shots combined with more editorializing shots. Sneak up on 
 the viewer with emotional impact and meaning. Let some things sink in before 
 hitting them with a stronger message. And some others seem to like some you 
do  not. Mildly or more than mildly. Different strokes for different folks. I 
am  going to show what I think will fit my series on list to get feeback.

You  certainly don't have to like anything I show. For this series or 
anything else.  And I don't mind critiques or feedback that pertain to a 
particular 
photo.  

No, Tom, I didn't feel attacked or overly criticized or anything like  that. 
I did feel, however, you wanted to start some kind of debate with me.  About 
environmental concepts or technology or the purpose of photography or the  
purpose of landscape/nature photography or something. 

And I am not  interested in debating. Here or elsewhere on the Net. I don't 
have the time or  inclination for it. I have felt that I have noticed that you 
instead seem to  enjoy them. But over the years, I have found it really 
consumes too much of my  time, since I am not that verbal a person, to write 
long 
posts to others. And it  winds me up having to work so hard at expressing 
myself 
(that dyslexia thing  again). I am more visual anyway, so I'd rather show 
than tell.

So I just  stated my opinions to get past all that. And now you have stated 
yours. As far  as I am concerned that is not a debate and now it is over. That 
is what I meant,  I do not wish to continue discussing it.

Take Care, Marnie  



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