JCO is correct.
Paul
On Apr 28, 2007, at 11:02 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> Secondly, whether hes making a scientific statement
> or dogmatic whatever, or just generalizing, its
> still WRONG, because the DOF isnt kept same OR similar
> by changing focal lengths if you keep the same camara
> postion, it **changes*** with focal length if you
> do that.
>
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of
> Tom C
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:43 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: M85mm f2.0 bokeh
>
>
> Certainly what you state regarding DOF is true.  I believe though the
> writer
> was not making a dogmatic absolute statement of scientific fact.   
> He was
>
> generalizing.
>
>> As the camera: subject/background ratio wasn't altered, DOF should be
>> SIMILAR for all four lenses.
>
> I'm pretty sure he knows that actual DOF is not changed by altering  
> the
> subjects distance from the focal plane.  That's only moving  
> subjects in
> to,
> out of, or within the range referred to as DOF.  I think he means that
> the
> *perceived* DOF will be *similar*, which is true for lenses close  
> to the
>
> same focal length used at close to the same aperture. Not the same,  
> but
> similar.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>> From: >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: M85mm f2.0 bokeh
>> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:26:25 -0400
>>
>> No,this assumption is wrong, DOF is
>> constant only for same fstop and
>> MAGIFICATION (in camera ). If he
>> used same camera position and fstop
>> and only changed lenses, the shorter
>> lenses will have same perspective
>> in the shots but with MORE Depth
>> of field than the longer lenses.
>> DOF is a function of magnification,
>> NOT the "subject/background" ratio.
>
> Mr. J.
>
>>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
>> Behalf Of
>
>> William Robb
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:10 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: M85mm f2.0 bokeh
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Stenquist"
>> Subject: Re: M85mm f2.0 bokeh
>>
>>
>>> Of course the 70 gives you more DOF. Thus, a bit crisper.
>>
>> I left the camera position static and cropped the 70mm and 77mm  
>> images
>> to be similar to the 85mm images.
>> As the camera: subject/background ratio wasn't altered, DOF should be
>> similar for all four lenses.
>>
>> William Robb
>
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