Just like shooting slides !

Kenneth Waller

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From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was 
Re:Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)


> Then you and I shoot differently. I can get very consistent results
> shooting jpeg. I did a test yesterday, because I have an assignment
> where I'll have to shoot jpeg and turn over unprocessed files. I shot
> in a variety of conitions -- backlit, cross lit, low light, bright
> light. The vast majority of my exposures where right on. When I did
> all my car shoots on transparency film, I rarely missed a shot. Yes,
> it takes some thinking and some care, but it's not all that
> difficult. Hell, all these little old ladies are running around with
> their point and shoots getting good  jpeg results. Can't be too hard.
> Paul
> Paul
> On Apr 14, 2007, at 11:28 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>> nope, as I just posted, if you shoot jpeg
>> you have to be REAL careful with the exposure
>> or you wont get as good a results as with
>> film and this is even more work than RAW processing is.
>> jco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Paul Stenquist
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:09 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re:
>> Fullframelensesandthe K10D, CA anyone?)
>>
>>
>> You can shoot jpeg and drop them off at a lab for processing, and
>> some high-end labs now do RAW as well. It's the same equation as
>> before. Those who will settle for someone else's work shoot jpeg and
>> drop the card off at a lab. Those who wish to do their own, shoot
>> RAW. I wouldn't have wanted someone else processing my BW film any
>> more than I want someone else to process my digital images. What's
>> more, very few photographers process every RAW image they shoot. When
>> I shoot recreationally, I probably process only about 10%. The rest
>> can continue to live as DNG files until I either decide to discard
>> them or revisit them. When I shoot an event, I use the same
>> parameters for a number of shots, and I can process them quickly. My
>> photographic world is about the same as it was with film.
>> Paul
>> On Apr 14, 2007, at 10:55 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>>> I don't completely agree. Sure it's fun to tweek an occasional really
>>> favorite image to perfection, but when you have to do dozens,
>>> hundreds, thousands of them it just gets old pretty quick. I know
>>> when
>>
>>> I now shoot a 2GB card of RAW (about 180 images ) , I dread having to
>>> do all the image processing, and
>>> I have only had the camera a few months...
>>>
>>> And the really sad part is with
>>> digital, you are pretty much on your own, you cant drop
>>> your RAW images at a local lab and have them digitally processed for
>>> you even if you are willing to pay a reasonable fee like you still
>>> can
>>
>>> with film. Maybe this will change in the future or RAW processing
>>> automation software will improve, but for now IT SUCKS!
>>>
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> David Savage
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:43 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: Pixel peeping and looking for defects (was Re:
>>> Fullframelensesand the K10D, CA anyone?)
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally I always liked the darkroom aspect of photography. And the
>>> digital equivalent is no different.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/14/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Digital SLRS/photography is also a "pain in the ass" in
>>>> some KEY ways. For good quality, you still have to "process" your
>>>> RAW
>>>> images. This is digital's "dirty little secret". I say its actually
>>>> much easier to go shoot some color film, drop it off at a lab, and
>>>> get nicely exposed, sharp prints. No, its
>>>> not free like digital is, but if you actually value
>>>> your time like your job, its probably as cheap or cheaper
>>>> than shooting digital IF that's all you want
>>>> or need.
>>>> jco
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