An excerpt from another report yesterday.  It would appear to indicate that 
Pentax et al. may not be opposed to a merger, they just changed their mind 
regarding the conditions of the formerly proposed merger.

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Watanuki, who was formerly a corporate vice president, also left the door
open to a future tie-up in a "broader sense," which could involve steps
including a tender offer by Hoya or a joint venture.

"I've never expressed opposition to a merger," he said.

Although Watanuki declined to comment on specific details of how he had come
into his new post, he said the former management "was not open" and had 
caused
in-house confusion. The comment suggested that former president Fumio Urano 
was
too forceful in pushing for the Hoya deal, prompting a split within the 
company.


Tom C.




>From: Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release...
>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:14:53 +0200
>
>It seems Pentax is/was/will be bit that much interested into a merger
>but Urano was. It's not clear at all (yet) if Pentax (its
>shareholders) are really interested in a merger or if Urano's proposal
>was "well why not after all".
>
>2007/4/12, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Why would it make it suspect?  They are the majority shareholder.  
>Almost
> > all (if not all) shareholders are in it for primarily one thing -  
>making
> > money.
> >
> > If making the most amount of profit in the shortest amount of time is
> > Sparx's goal, it's also the goal of many other shareholders.
> >
> > I'm not stating anything regarding the possible demise of Pentax other 
>than
> > what is publicly available.  I do think their prediction of "It will be 
>hard
> > for Pentax to survive on its own in five to 10 years' time" is a 
>truthful
> > statement.  If it were not, Pentax would have had no interest in a 
>merger
> > with Hoya and Hoya would not have made indications that they would 
>consider
> > divesting themselves of the low-margin divisions of Pentax, post-merger.
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release...
> > >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:49:44 -0400
> > >
> > >The point is success to Sparx is not necessarily, in fact probably
> > >isn't, success to Pentax.  In fact in Sparx is better off if Pentax is
> > >sold.  That makes Sparx's predictions of Pentax's demise suspect.  I'm
> > >not saying that those predictions are wrong, but I'm considering the
> > >source.
> > >
> > >Tom C wrote:
> > > >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> Subject: Re: From a Recent Press Release...
> > > >> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:21:00 -0400
> > > >>
> > > >> Then again Sparx group seems to have a vested interest in Pentax
> > >getting
> > > >> out of the Photography business, in fact any business.  They wanted
> > >that
> > > >> before Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market and like any 
>group of
> > > >> analysts they hate to be wrong.  Sometimes so much so that they 
>ignore
> > > >> results. You should keep in mind that Sparkx Group has no vested
> > > >> interest in the actual survival of any company, (except maybe for
> > > >> themselves), to them its only money, and maximizing return is all 
>they
> > > >> care about.  Better for Pentax to be bought by Hoya and 
>dismembered,
> > > >>
> > > > >from their point of view, (which will net them relatively high 
>profits
> > > >
> > > >> on the sale of their holdings), than continue to survive and pay
> > > >> dividends with only a normal appreciation in value over time.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Pentax's recent success in the DSLR market though, has been 
>relatively
> > > > small. Small overall market share, small profit margin, even though 
>they
> > >are
> > > > turning a profit.  It makes it very hard to compete.
> > > >
> > > > Yes I know that Sparx and many other investors may have no vested
> > >interest
> > > > in the survival of the company.  That's exactly why some of us have 
>been
> > > > saying for several years that we were worried with regard to 
>survival of
> > >the
> > > > brand.  That, and we thought Pentax was making stupid moves in the
> > >business
> > > > (which may have been the only moves they could make, based on cash 
>flow
> > >and
> > > > profitability).
> > > >
> > > > It has little to do with Pentax's past history as a leader in the 
>50's
> > >and
> > > > 60's, the quality of their lenses, or whether we personally like the
> > >Pentax
> > > > brand.
> > > >
> > > > Tom C.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Tom C wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> "The No. 1 shareholder, with a stake of 23.9%, is independent 
>asset
> > > >>> management firm Sparx Group Co. (8739).  "It will be hard for 
>Pentax
> > >to
> > > >>> survive
> > > >>> on its own in five to 10 years' time," Sparx President Shuhei Abe
> > >says."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm not saying the sky is falling. But I also would not be 
>surprised
> > >if
> > > >>>
> > > >> the
> > > >>
> > > >>> recent posturing is not just a way to further up the
> > >ante/purchase-price
> > > >>>
> > > >> of
> > > >>
> > > >>> Pentax.  If that threshold is met, Hoya could acquire the most
> > > >>>
> > > >> profitable
> > > >>
> > > >>> part of the business, while possibly selling off or eliminating 
>the
> > > >>> underperforming 2% profit camera-side of the business.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Remember, during most acquisitions, mergers, shutdowns, the modus
> > > >>>
> > > >> operandi
> > > >>
> > > >>> is business as usual until the day an announcement is made.  We've
> > >seen
> > > >>>
> > > >> that
> > > >>
> > > >>> in operation already with the way the Samsung partnering was
> > >announced,
> > > >>>
> > > >> the
> > > >>
> > > >>> way the merger was announced, and now the suddenness with the 
>backing
> > > >>>
> > > >> away
> > > >>
> > > >>> from the deal.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Time will tell.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Tom C.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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