I agree pre-A series lenses are much harder to work
with than those A-series and leter, especially if you are in a hurry,
with the current Pentax DSLR lineup.
The "green button fix" is a kludge at best compared
to what the Pre-A lenses are capable of doing.
This is why I belive Pentax needs to produce a DSLR body, even
if its only the top line model, that FULLY SUPPORTS K/M
lens features via an aperture cam sensor. I do not feel the "total
solution or
better solution" is to buy
a bunch of A or later lenses because they are not
the same if you prefer manual focus and there are
many pre-A lenses that have no later series equivs in
terms of form, fit, and function...
jco 

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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Lens suggestions


On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Nick Wright wrote:
> So I'm starting to think a little more seriously about putting 
> together the Pentax kit. I'm all about the available light so I'm 
> looking at large aperture primes and would like to ask y'all's 
> opinions about them.
>
> Specifically I'm looking at the M28mm f/2, M50mm f/1.4, and either the

> A85mm f/1.4 or the 85mm f/2. Pros, cons?


Personally I find working with pre-A series lenses too much of a  
change from working with more recent series lenses, and feel it  
constrains the features of the K10D too much for my liking. It loses  
all the exposure modes other than Manual, unless Av mode with wide  
open aperture is what you tend to do all the time, etc. And the  
K10D's semi-automatic metering mode for the pre-A lenses has some  
known fallibilities ... nothing terribly serious, but it does take a  
different methodology to get the best from it. There are times when  
it proves just fine to do so, but these lenses would not be the basis  
of my "essential" working lens kit.

- The M28/2 ... my favorite "use it all the time" focal length, I  
wish they'd get on with it and produce a DA28/2 Limited. I had the  
A28/2.8 first, sold it when I obtained the FA20-35/4 AL as it covered  
the focal length better, and added the FA28/2.8 AL. I'd love a high  
quality f/2 lens in this focal length that allowed me full access to  
the K10D's features.

- My impression from having used both M and A (and later) series  
50/1.4s is that the 50mm f/1.4 lenses were greatly improved  
(particularly wide open) from the A-series onwards.

- I had the M85/2 and it was a fine lens (as long as you used a good  
deep hood to prevent flare). I replaced it with the FA77 Limited,  
which is better, and then replaced that with the DA70/2.4 Limited,  
which suits me even better as the shorter focal length and smaller/ 
lighter form factor do more for me than the extra .6 stop in speed.

My current lens kit of "essential" lenses is all primes:
   DA14/2.8 ED, DA21/3.2 Limited, FA28/2.8 AL, FA43/1.9 Limited,  
DA70/2.4 Limited

Adequately fast for anything I've needed for low light with ISO 800.  
The right focal lengths for my use with the K10D, all excellent  
performers, and all except the DA14 are light and compact. They allow  
me to use all the features of the K10D as appropriate.

Godfrey


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