I agree - for snow flake photos where grain and noise are killers, Velvia 50 can't hold a candle to the *ist-D. But for street photography where I want a certain, um, grainy, effect, there's not substitute for film. I like Microdol-X, a fine(r) grain developer. IMO with a grainy film it simply results in a more uniform, controlled, but still quite definite grain compared to digital.
I have yet to find a Photoshop filter that can reproduce the organic grain of real film - ultimately, whne you appply a filter a pattern appears, maybe not in small photos but in large ones the pattern can be quite annoying. It _is_ subtle but apparent. If I was a programmer I would write a grain simulation filter that looked at each pixel, used some logic to determine if that pixel was a good seed for a grain pattern, and then proceed with a random grain branching fractaly off of it if it was. In my experience, most grain filters just overlay a pre-determined 'grain' pattern over an image, and if the file is large enough the pattern repeats, and the discerning eye sees the repetition. - MCC Jack Davis wrote: > Have, for many years, been a big fan and user "essentially grainless" > 25, 50 and 100 ISO films. > These were/are the films that I have replaced with digital, not so much > for its work flow advantage, but because I see a cleaner more detrailed > image. > If film is your thing, knock yourself out. > > Jack -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

