They did the same thing with the FA 28-70/4. It was rumored to be discontinued and shortly thereafter the page disappeared. Was gone for a couple of weeks then reappeared until stock was gone apparently. I was interested in the current price of the D at one point and couldn't find it on their site. This was just after rumors of it's being discontinued started circulating. It then reappeared a few weeks later. The trouble with the Net is there's no history.
Paul Stenquist wrote: > B&H never removed them as far as I know. I've always seen them > offered on their site. > Paul > On Dec 8, 2006, at 9:13 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > >> Only supposition, but from logical inference. The *ist-D was >> unavailable from any source for months maybe even as long as a year. >> Even B&H had removed it from their web site a while back. Now >> suddenly >> they are available, at bargain prices. It doesn't take much brain >> power >> to realize that Pentax has most probably offered them to retailers >> at a >> huge discount before they're stuck with the lot of them. >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> >>> You do lose money if you buy too many >>> to get a good price and the market then >>> goes south due to better cheaper models >>> before you have sold them all. This happens >>> all the time in technology based retail... >>> I dont think you have any real basis to >>> KNOW that they are NOT losing money >>> on these. I have a hunch they are. To say >>> they put these kits together fairly cheaply >>> could be quite wrong... >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of >>> P. J. Alling >>> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:12 AM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New >>> >>> >>> Because I worked in Retail John, you don't make money by loosing >>> money >>> on each sale and making it up on volume. >>> >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I still dont see why you think this seller >>>> got/gets the NEW *istD bodies cheap. They may be >>>> losing their ass on them. I dont know, >>>> but how do you? >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>> Of P. J. Alling >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:30 PM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New >>>> >>>> >>>> Think computers, the *ist-D is a discontinued computer. It's >>>> replacement is available now. It's being dumped before another >>>> generation makes it unsaleable. The 28-80 doesn't have a sterling >>>> reputation and they were made to be sold with the *ist film cameras. >>>> I'll bet Pentax has a ton of them, for which there is not much >>>> demand. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> Most film users can afford cameras with higher perceived value >>>> most of >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> which can use or need to use an aperture ring. The lens is an >>>> orphan. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> Once again it's being dumped before it becomes unsaleable. This is >>>> >>>> >>> just >>> >>> >>>> the beginning of the price slide. B&H photo is still selling the >>>> *ist-D >>>> >>>> for 799 without lens. But look to see much deeper discounting real >>>> soon. Face it with an APS sensor 28-80 is not a very popular focal >>>> length. >>>> 18-50 or so is. >>>> >>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> High price? Wasnt the istD originally >>>>> over $1000 for just the body? This is >>>>> about $450 for a new *istD body and >>>>> about $50 for all the rest including the >>>>> FAJ lens by my estimate.....How do you >>>>> know they got them (the bodies) cheap? >>>>> jco >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of P. J. Alling >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:29 PM >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nope, not wide at all, (like 43mm on a FF film camera), and the FAJ >>>>> is FF. They're unloading a kit they put together fairly cheaply >>>>> at a >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> relatively high price. >>>>> >>>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759 >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems like they are trying to unload these >>>>>> older leftover models now..... >>>>>> >>>>>> How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 >>>>>> Autofocus >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Zoom Lens? Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because 28 isnt >>>>>> very >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> wide on APS now is it? >>>>>> >>>>>> jco >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. >> --Albert Einstein >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
