For the (realistically) cautious, I offer this advice:

Set up a secondary (or tertiary/quadrant) account to your principle  
account for online transactions for vendors such as PayPal that  
really push a checking authorization.  Limit the funds available to  
what you are trying to move, with a little wiggle.  Make sure the  
conditions of your account provide protection to "unauthorized  
transactions" but realize that even then you may have to battle to  
protect your credit in the event of a larceny.

Just make your exposure is minimal, and you will be fine.  If you tie  
your pay-pal (or other online pay-service) to your principal  
checking, it is most likely you won't be victimized, but it may  
happen.  Summary: if you want to take extra measures, open an account  
in another bank for your online transactions and don't tie it to your  
principle repository.  Banks make it easy to protect yourself if you  
investigate an automatic shutdown on withdrawals.

 From the seller's side, be wary that such protections make it really  
really tough to pursue non-payers when they challenge a charge.   
Unfortunately from a respectable merchant's perspective, it's _very_  
difficult to recover contested transactions, and that is a shame,  
because it is what makes merchant fees so astronomical that credit  
purchases kill the retail vendor in service fees and man-hours on  
recovery.

Michael

Hang the thieves.

On Dec 1, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:

> Paypal acts as the middle man and they are the only ones that know  
> your
> account numbers etc. Similarly, when someone wants  to pay you they  
> give
> their info to paypal, you never see it.
>
> As a consumer, I try to use paypal vs direct online credit cards
> whenever possible. I figure that confining my data to the fewest  
> sources
> makes sense, so I try to keep as many transactions flowing through
> paypal vs a bunch of independent store credit card clearing areas.
>
> If you are truly paranoid read the TOS closely. To get a paypal  
> account
> you _have to_ give them access to your bank account. Both so they can
> pay you is via direct deposit, they also can debit your account to  
> make
> payments on your behalf.  They way it works is they make a small  
> deposit
> to your account (a few cents) and then withdraw it to verify that they
> have access.
>
> I haven't looked at the TOS closely in several years but they used to
> give PayPal the right to just go into your account and take what they
> think they are owed should you wind up in a disagreement with them.  
> I've
> talked with folks who have great anxiety over that, but I've never
> talked to anyone who ever had a problem with it.
>
> The only risk I ever saw was if someone I sold something to used a
> fraudulent credit card or other scam to pay for it. Possibly Paypal
> could grab that money back out of my account and leave me holding the
> bag. I don't do anything of such magnitude to warrant worries, and
> paypal has access only to my checking account, not an account with
> substantial balances.
>
> The other thing with paypal is the fees - the seller pays the paypal
> fees. The few times I've sold substantial commercial photo licenses,
> I've just asked for a check and send an invoice, because the paypal  
> fees
> can be notable on larger dollar (>1000) transactions. Unfortunately, I
> haven;t had to deal with that problem much.
>
> - MCC
>
> David J Brooks wrote:
>> Hi All.
>>
>> I have had  a nunmber of clients ask if i take paypal. At this time
>> only cash or cheque.
>>
>> I am just setting up for online banking,i;m paranoid still:-),but
>> unsure whats involved with paypal.
>>
>> How do people access my account. I don;t want my visa or bank account
>> numbers out there for the taking.
>>
>> Can those that accept paypal give me an idea of what to do/expect.
>>
>> Dave, sir paranoid, Brooks
>>
>> Equine Photography in York Region
>>
>
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