Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 50-100% for reciprocity failure is probably fine, but how do you manage to
> dertermine such long exposures in the first place, please???? Do you have a
> meter for this - or ist it all exprience?

Most of it is in fact experience from years of shooting in such
locations or places with comparable lighting. Something in the order of
2 minutes at f8 with ISO 160 is a good starting point for such a scene.
A bit of bracketing is always useful. If in doubt, overexpose by a stop
or two. The problem with these scenes is mostly getting some trace of
detail into the shadows. Modern colour negative film is very tolerant
against overexposure. If you really wanted to block the highlights you'd
probably have to burn holes into it. Afterwards, Vuescan's
multi-sampling feature does a remarkable job of squeezing the last bit
of information out of those rather dense highlights again, even with the
average Epson flatbed scanner.

Great to be back in this wonderful season where there isn't all this
stupid daylight deep into the late hours. ;-)

Ralf

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manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005
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