An A lens is enough for pentax to switch to matrix metering. A type
lenses only transfer the max aperture and eject a electric contact
from it's mount when the A setting is selected. Sigma and others have
the contact permanently "ejected" and probably use an internal
electrical switch.
I never did real tests but matrix metering should at least know how to
handle backlight correction.

It should be possible to convert any type of lens to A type. Bojidar's
 KMP site has the coding table online and drilling some holes and
inserting some isolating epoxy should be enough. I never found a good
solution for the lens based contact. The contact in the K mount is
mounted below the "surface" of the K mount. I tried inserting some
metal foil and voila the body sees a A lens.

On 10/22/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > ...While it might have been nice to know how to make the lenses
> > provide multi
> > segment metering, I really didn't care very much to waste time
> > looking for
> > a solution.  Others here are so much better at fiddling around with
> > such
> > things.  If it were an issue, I'd have just asked the list, and
> > guys like
> > Roberts would probably have an answer.
> >
> > BTW, isn't matrix metering what Nikon calls their system, and doesn't
> > Pentax use the term "multi segment metering?"  Are the two the
> > same, or is
> > there some difference between them? ...
>
> Nikon was the first to market with "matrix metering" in the FA model
> and I guess the name is theirs, but it's stuck around as being a
> generic term. Pentax calls it 'multi-segment metering'. Both are
> implementations of the same idea, which I think is more precisely
> called "evaluative exposure estimation":
>
> - Measure the scene at multiple points using independently sensitive
> zones.
> - Compare the relationships of the zones, weighted appropriately,
> against a library of scene types to identify known exposure
> evaluation issues.
> - Take that type analysis plus the total average brightness of the
> scene, along with the weighted segment values, to produce a good
> guess at best overall exposure setting.
>
> For the simple, early generation systems like this, the information
> required for open aperture metering is max aperture and exposure time
> aperture setting.
>
> This can become arbitrarily trickier with more sophisticated
> information and higher power processing in the metering system.
> Factors that help aid scene type identification can be focal length
> and focus setting, factors that help aid exposure setting can be
> color balance, you can include color information (as Nikon does with
> RGB matrix metering bodies). These later systems require lenses that
> provide the relevant additional information for the specific metering
> system in question.
>
> Ancient lenses that do not have chips in them to provide this
> information electronically are not compatible with this metering mode
> on the Pentax DSLRs no matter what you do, due to the way the
> implementation was integrated with the rest of the camera's real time
> control system. (The same is true for Nikon's D200 ... except that
> they've provided a way to input some of the required data for a
> specific lens that you mount and enable one of the simpler forms of
> the metering mode.)
>
> In my experience, matrix metering evaluations with the Pentax *ist DS
> resolve to be arbitrarily close to Center Weighted Averaging readings
> UNLESS I set the option to link the AF and AE point and use the full
> AF sensor array. Then I see some variations in the selected exposure
> settings.
>
> Godfrey
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