Im a sorry but I sometimes lose my patience when I have
To state something over and over again and people still
Don't get it and make it worse by saying I am repeating myself.
Yes I am and will continue to do so if I have to and I don't like it.
jco

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tom C
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: The JCO survey

JCO,

You probably already know this.  People are now responding to how you
are 
saying things, vs. what you are saying.


Tom C.


----Original Message Follows----
From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: The JCO survey
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:03:13 -0400

You are an ingorant idiot, please read what I am telling you. I have
said repeatedly ALL of the things you just Mentioned did not and do not
require the removal of the  Full K/M support. They were all implemented
in such a way Not get in the way of the K/M aperture cam or its sensor.
THERE IS NOTHING NEW at this time to require K/M lens
Support deletion. Why cant you get this through your
Head? As for future changes, this isnt the future, this is
Now and there is nothing NEW with the lensmount to prevent the K/M
support
In the DSLR bodies. Period. If there was something new and it was
A **worthwhile** tradeoff ( get new functons, lose old functions ) that
Would be one thing but nothing new is gained. Its all regressive loss.
DUH.

jco

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:22 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: The JCO survey

Well, since we're all obtuse and stupid, you may have to post your
comments
about nine or ten more times, maybe twelve.

Since the original K-mount there have been numerous features added to
the
lenses and the cameras that are dealt with through the lens mount, auto
focus being but one of them.  And coming up is the new feature of
hypersonic (or whatever Pentax will call it) auto focus, where the motor
is
in the lens.  This will require a connection between the lens and the
body
via - tada! the lens mount and some contact points just behind the
mount.

Were you to read my post you'd note that a number of new features have
been
added to lenses and the camera since the advent of the K-mount in 1975.
IMO, there's just so much that poor little ol' lens mount is capable of
dealing with.  Perhaps the mount is reaching the limits of what it can
be
called upon to do.

Anyway, as Buddy Holly once sang, "Rave on ..."

Shel



 > [Original Message]
 > From: J. C. O'Connell <

 > How many times do I have to post this - THERE IS NO NEW LENSMOUNT
 > OR LENSMOUNT FEATURE on the Pentax DSLRs. If there was and it
 > Was important ( no power zoom for me thank you), that would be
 > One thing, but there isnt so this isnt being done in the name
 > Of progress whatsoever. Its all regression because the DSLR cameras
 > Could fully support ALL K mount lens series fully. K/M support
 > Isnt being removed for something new and improved.
 > JCO
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff

 > Strict definition?  Is there a Pentax dictionary somewhere that
defines
 > what a K-mount lens is?
 >
 > What a lot of people seem to be overlooking - or at least ignoring -
in
 > these threads is that the K-mount has evolved.  It now allows for
auto
 > focus, passing information to the camera body, it makes it possible
to
 > record EXIF data, and it's going to allow the use of the new DA*
lenses
 > with hypersonic auto focus. Might it be possible that there's only so
 > much
 > "room" within the lens mount design that in order to have these new
 > features, and the K/M lenses, the aperture simulator had to go?
 >
 > While it would be nice if I could use my K/M lenses a little more
 > conveniently, and I do want the aperture simulator to return, I'm
happy
 > to
 > give it up if it means that there will be newer, more advanced lenses
to
 > use on newer, more advanced cameras.  I don't want to keep looking
back
 > - I
 > want to look forward to more interesting developments in lens and
camera
 > technology.
 >
 > We're in a new age of photography - it's exciting and dynamic, and
 > Pentax
 > seems to be on the verge of a renaissance.  I'd like to see it emerge
 > fully
 > from the past decade or so of being a photographic has-been and
also-ran
 > and move forward, and perhaps even set the pace, in this decade.  It
 > ain't 1975 any more.



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