The glass showing inside the retaining ring on the M35/2.0 is almost 
exactly one inch. The barrel is bigger than the Summicron's due to the 
larger diameter mount. Considering that the M35/2.0 is a slight 
retrofocus design it is amazingly compact. Also remember that the 
aperture on a 35/2.0 is only 17.5mm considerably smaller than the 
aperture on a 50/1.2 or 1.4.

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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> I'm talking about the lens diameter, not the barrel diameter.  For example,
> the diameter of the front element of my 35mm Summicron (f/2.0) is about
> 1-inch while the front element of my Pentax 35mm f/2.0 is 1.5-inches.  I'd
> be curious what the diameter of the front element is on an M or A 35mm 2.0
> ... anybody got that figure?
> 
> You mention "later design."  That implies that the lens diameter (just the
> glass) is smaller than earlier models.  If that's the case, then it should
> be possible to design a smaller diameter lens for a DA than for film - at
> least that's one way to look at it.
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Adam Maas 
> 
>> Shel, They are, because they have a far simpler aperture design. No 
>> aperture coupling or full-aperture mechanism is required for an RF lens, 
>> not to mention a smaller-diameter mount (which allows smaller-diameter 
>> barrels). But even so, fast RF glass isn't all that much smaller than a 
>> Pentax 50mm f1.4 of SMC-M or later design.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>> I'm not sure that's correct ... I'll have to check the diameter of my
> Leica
>>> glass.  It seems to me that the lenses for my Leica, compared to the
> same
>>> focal length/aperture of my Pentax glass, are smaller.
> 
> 
> 

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