This issue - biased tests - would be a fine research issue, which would require (public) access to the econimics of testing magazines.
Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Peter Fairweather Sendt: 3. september 2006 23:27 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Uk review of macro lenses I wouldn't dream of suggesting that editors are affected by the possibility of upsetting major advertisers. However I haven't seen another magazine as critical of the EFs 60mm Canon. Lots of people here like the Tamron. There are even a few of us ( not called Godfrey!)have owned decent Sigma lenses so neither of those results surprise me. The French magazine Chasseur D'Image shows photographs of a rectilinear grid when they test lenses. I've always found this useful as a way of seeing distortion. The super new F1.2 85mm Canon L was a lot less impressive than the Pentax 77mm or the FA* 85mm F1.4. both of which you could have for the same price as one of the Canon's. However how many of us regularly take pictures of graph paper!! Peter > >On Sep 3, 2006, at 3:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > > > > > >>I think what he's saying is that if a company buys a lot of > >>advertising > >>space the conclusions will be biased in their favor. At least that's > >>what I've seemed to notice. > >> > >>Jens Bladt wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Peter, are you syaing that good "test" results are often or > >>>genrally paid > >>>for, by the avertisers? > >>>Regards > >>>Jens > >>> > >>>Jens Bladt > >>>http://www.jensbladt.dk > >>>+45 56 63 77 11 > >>>+45 23 43 85 77 > >>>Skype: jensbladt248 > >>> > >>>-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > >>>Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af > >>>Peter Fairweather > >>>Sendt: 3. september 2006 19:28 > >>>Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>Emne: Re: Uk review of macro lenses > >>> > >>> > >>>I've looked on the magazine website www.photographymonthly.com where > >>>there is a discussion group. In fairness to Nikon (will that phrase > >>>get me barred from PDML?) it was their old 200mm lens not the latest > >>>VR xyz etc. Doesn't stop them charging £1000+ for it tho'! > >>> > >>>Peter > >>> > >>>On 9/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>In a message dated 9/2/2006 5:59:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>The top lens was the Sigma 100mm with 88/100 which > >>>>>ranked far above > >>>>>the 150 and 180 offerings from this company. In > >>>>>second place was the > >>>>>Tamron 90mm, marginally ahead of the Pentax. > >>>>>(86/100) > >>>>> > >>>>>One hopes the magazine does not fold as a result of > >>>>>poor advertising revenue!! > >>>>> > >>>>>Peter > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>======== > >>>>I have the Tamron 90mm, several on this list do, and it is very, > >>>>very > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>nice. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Marnie aka Doe > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>[email protected] > >>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>-- > >>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>[email protected] > >>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> > >>>-- > >>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: > >>>09/01/2006 > >>> > >>>-- > >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: > >>>09/01/2006 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > >> > >> --Albert Einstein > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>[email protected] > >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 09/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 09/04/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
