Hi,

I'm not saying your pictures are of middle-class places - the pictures
my friend took were. But yours don't seem to me to be as bad as
perhaps you think. There's a lot around that's a lot worse.

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Cheers,
 Bob 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of P. J. Alling
> Sent: 25 August 2006 22:30
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO -- Good Intentions + Bad Plan =
> 
> I guess England is different.  Middle class people can afford a lot 
> better in the US.  Canada too probably.  To my eye this place 
> is bleak, 
> at best, warehouses for unwanted people.  The people who were living

> there knew that and treated it accordingly.  It's clean now because 
> there is almost no one left living there.  One or two apartments are

> still occupied, the rest are empty and the windows are 
> boarded up, (the 
> windows were mostly broken as of a couple of weeks ago), and 
> as soon as 
> there are places to move the last couple of tenants that project is 
> coming down.  If you like being warehoused more power to you.
> 
> Bob W wrote:
> 
> >Those places look ok. Your picture reminds me of a project that a
> >friend of mine did when we were about 20 years old and relatively
new
> >to photography. He comes from rather a privileged background, but
> >resolved to take socially-aware pictures, so he spent some weeks
> >working on his project. At the end he showed his shocking expose of
> >squalid housing and bad conditions to the local socialist rag, and
> >they laughed themselves sick. He'd taken pictures of ordinary
> >lower-middle-class homes.
> >
> >--
> >Cheers,
> > Bob 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> >>Behalf Of P. J. Alling
> >>Sent: 25 August 2006 21:42
> >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >>Subject: PESO -- Good Intentions + Bad Plan =
> >>
> >>One more PESO today.  This one's a B&W conversion, with a little
> >>    
> >>
> >back 
> >  
> >
> >>story.  In the 1950's and 1960's a social experiment was 
> >>attempted.  It 
> >>was thought that lives of the poor would be improved if they got
> >>    
> >>
> >free 
> >  
> >
> >>government housing.  So local governments got grants to build this

> >>stuff.  Under the banner of "Urban Renewal" vibrant but poor 
> >>neighborhoods were torn down and replaced with places like this.
> >>    
> >>
> >Now 
> >  
> >
> >>they are being replaced with neighborhoods that look like the 
> >>ones that 
> >>were there originally.  Usually color makes a bad place look 
> >>better, but 
> >>not this place, it still looks like a prison.  I chose B&W 
> >>because I was 
> >>attempting a gritty old time newspaper look. 
> >>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
>
>http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_goodintentionsbadplan.html
> >  
> >
> >>Technical Info.:
> >>
> >>Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/4000sec (Av)
> >>smc Pentax F 35-70mm f3.5-4.5 @f8.0 (70mm)
> >>
> >>B&W conversion Note:
> >>
> >>This is a many layered conversion.  It's the same one I've 
> >>used before, 
> >>but I added a copy layer just above the background to emulate film

> >>grain. I was looking for something like a fine grain 35mm 
> >>film from the 
> >>1960s or 1970s sort of like Plus-X Pan.  It doesn't look like any 
> >>particular film but maybe like some film.  
> >>
> >>As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
> >>
> >>-- 
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> >>Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as 
> >>modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess 
> >>the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and 
> >>recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on 
> >>others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do 
> >>anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it 
> >>
> >>P. J. O'Rourke
> >>
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> >  
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> 
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> 
> Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as 
> modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess 
> the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and 
> recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on 
> others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do 
> anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it 
> 
> P. J. O'Rourke
> 
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