Shel,

Why do you persist in comparing zooms with primes?  They're different  
animals completely.  Chalk and cheese.  If you are after very fine detail  
(which your chosen example fails to demonstrate, IMHO), you choose a  
prime.  If you want convenience, you choose a zoom.

Anybody who says that the 16-45 is a very fine lens can be understood to  
be also saying "for a zoom".  It obviously cannot be compared to the best  
primes, and Paul wasn't suggesting that for a moment.

John

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:59:05 +0100, Shel Belinkoff  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You'd have to compare this shot to one made with another lens.  I do  
> have a
> similar shot made with a prime - I think the K35/2.0 or the A 50/1.4 -  
> and
> the difference in detail and tonal quality - especially tonal quality -  
> is
> quite obvious.  I'll see if I can find that shot - it wasn't on the web
> page that I looked at.  So, while it shows an example of what I consider  
> to
> be fine detail, it doesn't show and compare the quality of the detail  
> that
> can be had with other lenses, therefore my earlier comment that the lens
> doesn't do that well rendering fine detail.
>
> However - and bear in mind that this is something I just use as a guide -
> the amount of sharpening necessary to get a good web result was
> consistently greater than with any of my other lenses.  While i know  
> that's
> often dependent on subject and lighting, I was consistently using 80%  
> plus
> to get a good result with the 16-45, while with my other lenses, with the
> exception of the K18/3.5, I usually sharpen at between 40% and 55%, and  
> in
> some instances even less.
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/jeans/rumpledjeans_2.html, yes?
>>
>> Thanks for reposting it, but this comes with your comment of lacking
>> fine detail, as opposed to something that shows it. I am none the
>> wiser, but I understand you no longer have the lens, so can't ask for
>> a reshoot to understand what I am missing.
>>
>> The quest continues :-)
>
>
>



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