The 5D isn't a pro body (It's based on the Elan 7N film body) and is under $3000 new (although not by much unless there's a sale on).
-Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: > Only the Canon pro cameras are full frame. None sell for less than > $3000. > On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > >>After Pentax killed the MZ-D/MR-52 in IIRC 2003 there were people on >>this list who predicted that Pentax would never introduce a Digital SLR >>that they would be film forever. The *ist-D was announced, what within >>a year, in peoples hands in less than 1 1/2 years. Canon has managed >>to >>bring the cost of a FF DSLR into the realm of mere mortals. If Pentax >>can get a FF sensor and build a camera for a price that they feel is >>competitive they will build it. Personally I think that Canon's >>propaganda machine is good enough that FF 35mm format will remain the >>holy grail of DSLR development, (not that they don't have a point). >>Pentax will either have one within the next 3-4 years, (1.3 crop is >>close enough for government work), be a name on a Samsung product, or >>be >>out of the Camera business. This is especially so if the 645D has >>limited sales success. If I'm right, (and I hope I am, not about the >>645D but about the FF sensor), I'll send you a bottle of Tabasco. >> >>Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> >>>The *ist was a stopgap film camera. No one considered it a top of the >>>line offering. I will eat this message if Pentax releases a 1.3 or >>>full-frame camera. It ain't gonna happen. >>>Paul >>>On Aug 7, 2006, at 9:57 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>It was sold as the new top of the line, and in most respects had, at >>>>least for Pentax top of the line specifications. The MZ-S was the >>>>Flagship but was soon discontinued anyway. The *ist effectively >>>>replaced the MZ-S the MZ3/ZX5n MZ-6/ZX-L etc. Don't forget the green >>>>button Kludge on the *ist-D didn't come along until there was a >>>>wave of >>>>protest from Pentax's user base in Japan, (and here, but Japanese >>>>users >>>>are what Pentax probably really cared about). I have no doubt that >>>>Pentax will change sensors as soon as it makes economic sense to do >>>>so. >>>>If a 1.3 crop or full frame 35mm sensor is released next week with a >>>>price/quality ratio that makes economic sense. Don't doubt that >>>>those >>>>DA lenses will be suddenly obsolete. >>>> >>>>Paul Stenquist wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>The film *ist was a limited offering aimed at newbie amateurs. It >>>>>was built for use with consumer zooms. It wasn't likely that many >>>>>would want to use it with pre-A lenses. >>>>>Paul >>>>>On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:45 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>They've never screwed with their customers like that before. >>>>>>Well not >>>>>>until the introduction of the *ist Film and Digital introduction >>>>>>that >>>>>>is. Try to meter with a pre-A lens on the film *ist and let me >>>>>>know how >>>>>>that works for ya. >>>>>> >>>>>>Aaron Reynolds wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>And encourage us to buy new lenses? Gosh, no! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I just can't see it. They've never screwed with the customer like >>>>>>>that >>>>>>>before. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Plus, their pro commitment is still to medium format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-Aaron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>When you're worried or in doubt, >>>>>> Run in circles, (scream and shout). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>When you're worried or in doubt, >>>> Run in circles, (scream and shout). >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>[email protected] >>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>When you're worried or in doubt, >> Run in circles, (scream and shout). >> >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>[email protected] >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

