I wasn't going to comment on your comment, but after thinking about it a
bit, I decided to go ahead and do so.  Very simply, I find a lot of
"traditional" bird photography trite and boring, no matter how well
executed the photographs are technically.  I'm not making photographs here
for bird watchers, rather, I'm trying not only to learn a few things about
photographing birds and trying to find ways to present them (the birds and
the photos) in less traditional ways.  That means I'm gonna push the
envelope some, and that ~always~ means some, or many, people are going to
dislike what I do and even take offense at it.  Cotty's comment that the
photo was crap let me know very clearly that I'm on the right path by
experimenting and trying to find new ways to present a traditional, and
often tritely portrayed, subject.

In addition, I'm using older manual focus gear, which makes getting the
results i want more difficult.  So, I need to practice focusing quickly and
zone focusing, which lenses are best for a given situation, and need to
take the time to pay attention to the way the birds move and their habits,
and even, perhaps, learn a bit about the personalities of different birds,
and hang out with them so they become more comfortable with my presence.

Yesterday was my third day with these birds, and the results I got were
better by a marked degree than the earlier photos.  I'm learning, and the
birds are learning to accept me as well.

So yes, I know that doing bird photography can be difficult.  One of my
photographic heroes is John Pezzenti who, IMO, is the greatest eagle
photographer on the planet, for many reasons.  He used to photograph them
with short lenses, all manual gear, and spent a lot of time (years, in some
cases) getting to know individual birds, who in turn would get to know him,
and allow him to get quite close to them. He'd photograph them in flight
with old manual gear and get amazing results because he took the time to
study their flight patterns.  It seems that, as they approach their nests,
they followed certain predictable paths.  So he often knew where they'd be
before they got there, which gave him an edge.

Oh, BTW, I've done my share of bird watching, and what I want as a watcher
is different than what I want as a photographer.  IMO, there's no reason
why every bird must be identifiable, with it's markings clearly shown.

Anyway, enough of this.  Time to do something else.  And thanks for the
lecture about what good bird photography should be.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> One of the standards of bird photography seems to be, basically, that the 
> bird be identifiable. This means showing the bird's significant field
marks -- 
> which usually means a lot less blur. I've taken some bird classes, but I
am no 
> expert by a long shot. Not even a serious novice. :-) But for serious
bird 
> watchers, identifying the bird is very important. There are thousands of
types of 
> birds.



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