Hi Aaron,
Have you been hanging out with Bill? <vbg.
Paul
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From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You two must realize how idiotic this conversation makes both of you look.
> It's
> like someone is e-mailing me the worst parts of Usenet.
>
> -Aaron
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subj: Re: Life in the Raw
> Date: Mon May 1, 2006 3:52 pm
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> To: [email protected]
>
> On May 1, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>
> > As long as we're being precise, I'll just clarify that the [Apple]
> > adjective was missing from my description. A Macintosh is by
> > definition an Apple product, but MacOSX doesn't run in an iPod or
> > Apple II... only on a "Macintosh."
> >
> > Fun game... no really... :)
>
> Semantically:
> Apple hardware is a generic term. Apple II, iPod, etc are specific
> products, as is "Macintosh". Apple II, iPod, Macintosh, Macintosh
> Plus, Power Macintosh G5, etc are all examples of Apple products
> which fall under the generic term "Apple hardware". Not all Apple
> hardware is the same, or can run the same operating system.
>
> No Apple product made since 1986 has been labeled simply "Macintosh".
> Everything from that point forward was Macintosh Plus, Macintosh SE,
> Macintosh II, etc etc. Mac OS X (NOT "MacOSX") runs on Apple hardware
> which generally includes *most* (if not all) of the Apple general
> purpose computing hardware with G3 processors and later, if you want
> to make it more specific.
>
> So to say that you need to "purchase Macintosh hardware" to run
> "MacOSX" is technically incorrect on two counts. Although since I
> understand exactly what you're saying, the distinction is moot. ... ;-)
>
> > There is no super-fast Mac hardware when it comes to overall system
> > performance. Memory bandwidth, chipsets, etc all tend to be a bit
> > slower than the PC counterparts. Not counting notebooks, I see a
> > G5 dual/dual-dual for between $2000-$3300. Building a PC piece by
> > piece will get you dual core for $1000 or less.
>
> Calling a G5 2.7Ghz Quad or an Xserve less than "super fast" is a
> little absurd to me. But that would drag us down into the horrors of
> benchmarks and metrics, component performance vs integrated
> throughput performance, ad nauseam, where I'd rather not waste
> bandwidth.
>
> A brand-new PowerMac G5 2Ghz DP with 1G RAM and 250G drive, all the
> wireless options, keyboard and mouse, operating system and included
> software (iLife '06), full development system software, cost me
> $1700. The monitor was extra, as was the second 500G drive and 2G
> more RAM. Overall, since I'm not a tinkerer, it wasn't a bad price
> for the performance and quality. I don't know build-it-yourself
> pricing very well as it's been years since I was interested to build
> a system from parts, but to buy comparable quality and performance
> enclosures, motherboards, drives, power supplies, etc etc and add the
> OS and other software to it, the value proposition is different by
> only a slim margin.
>
> My time is also worth something. I like to do photography ... my
> work ... not tinker with computers. I use computers to do my work,
> and I work to fix other people's computing problems, that's all. :-)
>
> Godfrey
>
>
