Right Tom. Actually, it begs the questions what the hell are we talking about?
Ultimately, the anti-reality argument ends up denying the evidence our senses give us by saying that we can no longer trust either our perception, experiments or theories. Take this line of argument to it's final conclusion and even words cease to have meaning. Because in the normal world words mean specific things that refer to specific objects or ideas. In the non-reality world, words refer to something that could be anything. How are we to know? A camera could be a device for taking pictures or the alligator that grabbed the nose of the elephant's child. The moment reality is denied no further conversation or experimentation or science is possible. It's not an issue of what we know now versus what might be discovered in the future. It's just that there is no common ground left for discussion at all. Cheers, Gautam On 3/28/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >At the macro level every scientist I have ever heard of says so. Now if you > >live at the quantum level things might be different. Most of us are a lot > >bigger than an atom, and atoms are at the macro level. However in all > >probability there is an underlying reality at the quantum level, however we > >do not truely understand what it is (yet). > > > >graywolf > > I'd go along with that 100%. To deny that reality exists, begs the > question, "Then why research?". > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > >From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: Bailing out. > >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:27:52 -0500 > > > >At the macro level every scientist I have ever heard of says so. Now if you > >live at the quantum level things might be different. Most of us are a lot > >bigger than an atom, and atoms are at the macro level. However in all > >probability there is an underlying reality at the quantum level, however we > >do not truely understand what it is (yet). > > > >graywolf > >http://www.graywolfphoto.com > >http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf > >"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > >----------------------------------- > > > > > >Bob Shell wrote: > >> > >>On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:41 PM, graywolf wrote: > >> > >>>Modern scientists claim there is an underlying reality whatever our > >>>perceptions. > >> > >> > >>Not all modern scientists claim, or believe, that. > >> > >>Bob > >> > >> > > > > >
