Bob Shell wrote:

On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:24 AM, William Robb wrote:

Well, personally, I am against child labor.

And people making 50 cents a day. And having to live next to toxic waste.

Those types of things only changed in the US with a labor  movement. The
bottom line of capitalism, which has good points, but also bad points, is profit. And usually companies have to be kicked to insure worker's rights because they
feel it cuts into profits.


And now companies are moving their factories offshore, in part to take advantage of all the things listed above that are still allowed overseas.



I'm not an economist, and I never played one on TV. But it seems like very basic economics to me that if all the good jobs are outsourced overseas and all Americans end up in "service" jobs, there won't be anybody left to buy all the goods produced overseas by those outsourced jobs.

Next door to me is a very small house. It has room for one couple with few possessions. There are three young women living there as room mates, and their boyfriends sleep over some of the time. All three work for Wal-Mart and just barely get by. They pool their resources to pay the rent, electric and heat, and have next to nothing left over after that. Health insurance? You gotta be kidding.

Don't look now, but the "American dream" died some time ago. Most people just haven't realized it yet.

Bob

Bob,

The 'Good Jobs' aren't going overseas. The crappy factory work is. This leaves us with service jobs as the only crappy jobs available.

The good jobs are still around, not counting the ones whose good pay is merely an artifact of unions (like Auto Workers, who make white collar salary for barely skilled labour), and those cushy union jobs are in the process of killing the golden goose. Just see GM for details.

What many people forget is that these jobs that are being lost were already disappearing due to increased automation as high wages over here were making the factories economically unviable without either heavy automation or outsourcing. Be glad that somebody actually got the work, rather than a machine. And they weren't all that good anyways.

There's a lot of options for getting good jobs for poor people. The best option is skilled trades, which are hurting for people (tried getting a plumber quickly these days). Skilled work is usually not getting outsourced, and often can't be (And the big 'outsource IT to India fad is mostly dead, now they outsource to rural states where they can get more skilled workers with better english nearly as cheap due to low costs of living).

-Adam

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