Thanks Jens, makes sense.

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:06 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Super A and fill-in flash?
>
>
> I must admit that I most often use this technique when using a Metz flash.
> Many Metz flashes have the ISO scale connected to the electronics.
>
> Anyway, it's the oldest trick inthe book: Working the flash at higher ISO
> setting than the film, to reduce flash output.
> When the AF280T is NOT in TTL-mode, it uses its own sensor.
> If you set ISO to 400 when using a 100 ISO film, and use the recommended
> aperture, the flash output will be 2 stops below, what the film requiers.
>
> This small test shows what I am talkning about (TTL,falsh at actual speed,
> falsh at higher speed).
>
> I know it's not necesary to change the ISO setting on THIS
> PARTICULAR flash
> unit, but it's still recommendable - so you wont forget what you
> are doing:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72057594063145224/
>
>
> What you normally would do to obtain flash compensation is this:
> 1. Set the camera according to the ambient light. Preferably in
> manual mode.
> (I normally use manual mode for all flash photography).
> 2. Set the flash to a higher ISO. Two stops is fine (Double the ISO value
> TWICE: i.e. 400 for a 100 film).
> 3. Shoot at the aperture recommended by the Flash, shutter speed according
> to the chosen aperture.
>
> This way the flash output will be two stops below a normal flash shot.
> The image will be correctly exposed, but the shadows, created by
> the ambient
> light, may lighten up a little.
>
> Regards
>
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 12. februar 2006 13:39
> Til: [email protected]
> Emne: RE: Super A and fill-in flash?
>
>
> Jens, how do you 'let the flash believe that the ISO setting is higher'?
> I've always just stopped down a stop or two from what the flash recommends
> and compensated with shutter speed.
> I don't believe I've ever seen a flash whose sensor is linked to ISO in
> auto mode.
>
> Don
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:41 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Super A and fill-in flash?
> >
> >
> > Yes, in a way. If the camera is set to underexpose by three
> stops - that's
> > what it will do.
> > The flash will then try to give enough light for F.8. If you are
> > out doors,
> > only the closest part of the image will get light enough for
> f8. The rest
> > will be under exposed by three stops. In doors (short distances) you may
> > very well be right.
> > But three stops is too much to be named "fill flash". This is
> more likely
> > one or two stops. Fill in flash is for harsh light conditions
> > where you want
> > to open up the shadows on the subject. You do this by adding a
> litle extra
> > light from a flash - perhaps a stop or two less, than you would
> use if the
> > scenery was dark.
> >
> > For fill flash I don't use TTL. In stead I use the built-in
> flash sensor -
> > letting the flash believe that the ISO setting is higher - one or two
> > stops - than it actually is.
> > Regards
> > Jens
> >
> > Jens Bladt
> > http://www.jensbladt.dk
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: Vic Mortelmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 12. februar 2006 11:12
> > Til: pentax epostlijst
> > Emne: Super A and fill-in flash?
> >
> >
> > Hallo,
> >
> > I own the Super A (with TTL-flash) and the AF280T. The manual of this
> > camera says: "In metered manual mode, speeds slower than 1/125 sec. stay
> > as are when the dedicated flash recycles. Choosing any slow speed, you
> > can enjoy existing light photography with flash fill-in."
> >
> > So when I put the camera on 'M' and select an aperture like f/8 and a
> > speed like 1/30 in some environmental light condition where this would
> > cause an underexposure of 3 stops, I would expect the flash to just give
> > the necessary light to make this a good exposure.
> >
> > Is this actually what the camera does?
> >
> > I notice that the flash fires when the shutter opens, so in any way, it
> > won't take into account the 'available light' hitting the film during
> > exposure.
> >
> > Groeten,
> >
> > Vic
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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