Shit in = shit out ;-) That's what you are saying, is it? I get your point, and I do believe thats one of the problems. But I have tweaked a bit, using levels to improve the contrast, adjusted gamma. Hue/Sat I havent tried. My starting point is online, at the same page. (It is thumbed below; clicking the thumb changes the displayed image). Right now I have both versions on screen. There is a lot of difference. Starting point has more contrast, and are lighter.
>I'd also strongly recommend you learn what good B&W photography looks >like. >Visit some galleries, get some books, shoot some B&W film. > Done that, been there ;-) In my teens I shot some B&W, played a bit in the darkroom. It's a long time ago. But still, done that. I've also read a photomag or two in my life, perhaps even three ;-), Been to a gallery, and... I could do more, but basically I'm a "learning by doing" person. I learn a lot better when I'm able to connect what I see with what I do. (In fact, I believe thats the best way to learn for everybody, but thats subject for a completely different thread) This may sound as I reject what you say. I don't, I really do appreciate your input. In fact, youre a diamond ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -----Original Message----- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30. august 2005 14:49 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: First attemt on B&W conversion > > When I first saw this photo I commented on its low contrast and softness. > It looks as though you tried to make the conversion without first > adjusting > the color, which I suspect you did since the result you got looks like I > recall my result to be (I played with the pic a bit) before adjusting the > color. Now, go back to the original pic and play with the contrast, > brightness, hue, saturation, and so on until you get a decent color > rendition, and THEN make the conversion. There's a lot more color in the > original photo than is apparent at first glance. > > You might also be able to use the double Huse/Saturation technique with > good results rather than the channel mixer. > > I'd also strongly recommend you learn what good B&W photography looks > like. > Visit some galleries, get some books, shoot some B&W film. > > Shel > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Tim Øsleby > > > This is my first attempt on doing a B&W conversion. No it isn't. I have > > tried before, with a crappy technique from a computer geek book about > using > > PSE3. > > > > You have seen the picture before. > > This time I've tried a simple Channel Mix. > > 20 red, 70% green and 10% blue. The values Shel suggested as a starting > > point. I fiddled a bit back and forth, but ended up with this. It came > out > > Ok-, but nothing more. > > > > Anybody got better ideas? A better mix, another solution? Not too fancy > > please, I'm a total newbie at this. > > > Oh, nearly forgot ;-) > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=191903 > >
