Frank, I think the shot stands by itself and doesn't need to be defended.

I think Shel's "careful composition" phrase implies a desire for
thoughtful, maybe slow? framing. There's a lot to be said about
someone who can quickly compose on the fly, without thinking about it,
like this picture obviously was (and I mean that in a good way, as in
composing "with the heart" instead of "with your head".)

BTW, the midtones look just a little bit washed up for my taste--but
I'm looking at it in some random monitor in Budapest, so it might be
that :)

Cheers,

j

On 8/28/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/27/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry, Frank ... it does nothing for me.
> 
> I certainly accept that not everyone will like this type of shot, and
> I appreciate your honesty and candor, Shel.  I always appreciate all
> comments made by everyone, because I'm happy that people look at some
> of my photos and feel compelled to take the time to comment.
> 
> >  This type of work seems to have
> > become your forte, like the signature main course at a frequently visited
> > restaurant.  It's nice every now and then, but after a while it's time to
> > try something else on the menu.  Personally, I'd like to see some more
> > photos that are well focused and carefully composed.
> 
> Quite honestly, Shel, I have to take issue with that paragraph.  I've
> taken some "blurry shots", and yes, I've posted other PAWs that
> feature panned shots of two-wheeled vehicles.  Some have had a great
> deal of motion-blur, some not so much.  But, do me a favour and look
> at my PAW folder:
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=381188
> 
> Admittedly, there's a lot of crap in there, but how many photos are
> similar to today's post?  91 photos over about a year and a half, and
> I count three shots that I see as being similar - two blurry pans of
> bicycles, and one other scooter shot with much less motion blur.
> 
> Now, admittedly, in my CMWC folder:
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=509434
> 
> there were some panned shots of bikes, but it was a bike race after
> all <g>, and as I explained, I went to New York with one lens (a
> 40mm), so was limited in what type of race photos I could take.
> 
> You know, Paul posted a series of slow-shutter-speed pans of hot rods
> and muscle cars a couple of weeks ago - I'd say at least 1/2 dozen of
> them.  I really enjoyed them, but did anyone say that he should move
> on and "try something else on the menu"?
> 
> Yes, I do take these sorts of shots more than some other
> photographers, but (again), look through my folders and you'll see
> that the vast majority of my photos are "well focused and carefully
> composed" - okay, maybe not "well-focused", but I did try to focus,
> and I did carefully compose most of them, even though I may not have
> accomplished my goal.
> 
> BTW, a final word, why do you think this wasn't "well composed"?  Just
> because it wasn't a static shot, just because I had to react quickly,
> just because it was a one-shot grab, do you think I didn't try to
> compose in the viewfinder?  The scooter was pretty close to where I
> wanted it to be in the viewfinder, I was well aware of the pattern of
> the scooter/pedestrians, and I felt at the time I released the shutter
> that this was the moment I wanted and the composition I wanted.  It
> may not be perfect (I wish I hadn't cut off the bottom of the tires),
> and I guess I'm not necessarily saying it's "well composed", but it is
> certainly deliberately composed.
> 
> Just so you (and the list) know, I'm not angry or in any way upset
> with you or the contents of the paragraph in question.  I know that
> reading text means that one is missing the "emotion" of seeing and
> hearing the author in person.  In fact I'm not upset at all.  I just
> wanted to express my thoughts WRT what you said, because IMHO, you're
> simply not accurate (but I certainly accept that you're being
> truthful, as I'm sure you believe what you said).
> 
> And again, this has nothing to do with whether you like the photo or
> not - I like it a great deal, so anyone can say they don't like it and
> it don't bother me a bit!  <LOL>
> 
> As always, I appreciate that you commented, Shel.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 


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