Hum..? GRIN!
So, you think they still make it exactly like they did pre-WWII?
Not a chance. CP-400 has extended red sensitivity. CP-200 may be a thick emulsion
film (I like the 4x5) but it is not a 1939 film, nor is it Super-XX. Classic Pan is
made by Forte, as is Freestyles Arista-EDU. They and Forte Pan 200 & 400 are
all the same. The French stuff does not seem to be the same, at lease it seems to
be coated on different film stock (sheet film sizes).
The Efke from J&C Photo (supposedly the same as Adox) may have old style
emulsions. I have not used it so could not say. If you are looking for slow films
it seems to be about the only thing generally available now.
You can find out a lot about these and other B&W films over on the Analog Photography
Users Group <http://www.apug.org/forums/home.php>
graywolf
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Scott Loveless wrote:
In a nutshell, I asked the folks at J and C this question: How will
Classic Pan 200 and 400 compare to the spectral response of older
films like Super XX or early Tri-X?
Their response, verbatim: Similar, the base technology of these films
is from an old Kodak factory in Eastern Europe.
There you have it, folks. I guess we'll see.
On 5/31/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd certainly be interested in knowing how that works for you. Do you know
if J&C brand film mimicks the color response of older film? It's been
suggested elsewhere that a very light blue filter can be used to emulate
the spectral response of older stocks. What developer were you thinking of
using?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: 5/30/2005 9:42:30 PM
Subject: Re: Getting That Old Fashioned Glow
Shel,
The propaganda at J and C suggests that their Classic Pan 200 is
similar to the old Super XX. I emailed them yesterday asking about
film that might be similar to the older, grainier Tri-X. They replied
today suggesting the Classic Pan 400. So I ordered five rolls of
each. I suppose it could just be a marketing ploy on their part, but
I'm hopeful. I'll let you, and everyone else, know how they work out
as soon as I can.
On 5/29/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I've never tried the J&C labeled films, but have used Formapan and
Bergger
(which I understand are similar). I only use water stop when I've run
out
of regular acidic stop bath - which is, essentially, never <LOL> Never
had
a problem with acidic stop bath, however, I use it diluted a little more
than called for and as a one-shot. I forget the proportions now (5 or
10
cc to 15oz water, perhaps), and I use a graduated hypodermic syringe to
add
the stop to the water.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Scott Loveless
J and C claims their JandC Classic Pan 200 and 400 films are thick
emulsions and high silver content. I've never tried these, but have
been thinking about buying a few rolls to test.
Going off on a tangent, have you ever had any problems using an acidic
stop bath on thick emulsion films? Do you think a water stop would be
a better option?
On 5/29/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Scott,
Plus-X is a modern film, relatively speaking. I use older-style
emulsions
most of the time with my B&W work, but they have all been
modernized.
Have
used some of what J&C sells - Efke, and others. Still not getting
what
I
want, but will keep experimenting and trying. Thanks.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Scott Loveless
Is it necessary to use a modern film? Plus-X, or perhaps
something
from JandCphoto.com, might give you that glow.
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