That's right. Apologies to Rob, whose knowledge I highly respect.

I just got confused and read "relatively small area of the image
forming rays" as meaning that they cause a relatively small shadow on
the sensor itself (which is not true, the shadow is bigger but
blurrier, that's why it's not visible)

Thanks all who posted.

j

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 15:37:01 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob said the same thing I did (almost) albeit in a particularly
> tortured form of English. ;-)
> 
> Again ... Shadows from a broad light source vs a point light source.
> That's the answer.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
> On Mar 9, 2005, at 3:23 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
> 
> > Actually, I'm buying Godfrey's explanation more than this one. I think
> > the difference between the angles of incidence should be negligible...
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:42:18 +1000, Rob Studdert
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 9 Mar 2005 at 14:13, Juan Buhler wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 15:14:32 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Obviously a small (higher) f stop shows up fine detail that might
> >>>> get blurred
> >>>> with a shallower depth of field.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This is precisely what is not obvious to me. If the dust is on the
> >>> front element of the lens yes, it will be more visible at smaller
> >>> apertures. But we are talking about sensor dust, which is right on
> >>> the
> >>> sensor, without a lens to "focus" it.
> >>
> >> Think of it this way and remember that the surface with the dust is
> >> suspended
> >> over the active area of the sensor:
> >>
> >> At wide apertures the image forming rays pass through the lens over
> >> the entire
> >> aperture opening and all focus at the film/sensor plane so the image
> >> forming
> >> rays are coming from a wide range of angles so any object suspended
> >> above
> >> obscures only a relatively small area of the image forming rays..
> >>
> >> At narrow apertures the image forming rays pass though a narrow
> >> opening hence
> >> that are conformed to pass though the dusty filter above the sensor
> >> surface at
> >> limited angles hence anything in their path will be rendered as a
> >> more obvious
> >> shadow on the image forming plane.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >>
> >> Rob Studdert
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Juan Buhler
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> >
> 
> 


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