You go girl! ;-)

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: DA14mm - why so large and heavy?
> 
> 
> Antonio wondered:
> > Aha, here comes the rest of the lynch Mob. How is it you only 
> join threads I
> > am in to attack me?
> 
> Because you are a jackass and I think some of your more asinine 
> posts require 
> correction.
> 
> > I am quite capable of speaking for myself thanks - your 
> representation of my
> > comments is in fact (surprise, surprise) wrong. Boy you guys do like
> > spinning it, dont you.
> 
> "Thanks"??
> I'm not offering to speak for you. I'm pointing out that you 
> misrepresented 
> what someone else said, in order to disagree with your version of 
> what he said. 
> (Which is something of a pattern with you.) Unfortunately for 
> your credibility 
> (assuming you still have any around here) the very thing you quoted 
> demonstrated what you were doing.
> 
> 
> > Saying that a 50mm lens becomes a an xxxmm lens is not "bullshit" as
> > greyworld would make out (notice he also later went on to state 
> that "the
> > whole thing seems a form a penis envy" - a curious thing to say when
> > discussing focal lenghs, angles of view and lenses...). I guess 
> some people
> > cant open their mouths without splurting out profanities.
> 
> As a woman, I have no interest in the topic of "penis envy". But 
> I will discuss 
> lenses. A 50mm lens does not BECOME any other focal length of 
> lens, ever, just 
> by virtue of being attached to a different format of camera. 
> Graywolf, whom you 
> quoted, said it made perfect sense to state that a 50mm on a 
> particular digital 
> camera would be EQUIVALENT TO (some other focal length) on 35mm. 
> But, as he 
> went on to point out, saying it "becomes" that is untrue. 
> Incorrect. Total 
> nonsense. He used a word that you quoted and I generally don't use. 
> Now, if "greyworld" is a different person who said something else 
> that you want 
> to rebut, then you should quote that person along with your rebuttal. 
> 
> > 
> > Using the 35mm equivalent measure is very much standard 
> practice and very
> > much widely used. It refers to AOV and how this changes 
> depending on sensor
> > size (refered to as the crop factor). 
> 
> 
> Yes, you're right on both counts, but ...
> 
> > And when people say x becomes y they
> > are referring to AOV, and are entirely correct.
> 
> .. now you're wrong. When people say x becomes y, they MAY BE 
> referring to AOV 
> and just sloppy in their language, or they may actually believe 
> that x becomes 
> y (in which case they're misunderstanding what happens). Either way the 
> statement is in fact incorrect.
> Now, if it's obvious from the context that they're just using 
> sloppy language 
> and they're communicating with other people who understand what 
> they mean, 
> communication works fine. But if it's not clear that they know 
> what they really 
> mean, or if their audience includes people who don't know what 
> they really 
> mean, then confusion can result. Therefore, it's best not to use 
> the incorrect 
> phrasing. 
> 
> ERN
> 

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