I cant see any point in you tryingf the M 135/3.5 Don if like with the
Takumar you will only take your own impressions if they are backed up by
those of others as you have done here.

A.


On 7/8/04 8:39 am, "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Fred, good answers.
> I noticed that the M 135/3.5 is pretty inexpensive, I'll try one some day.
> BTW: Don't let "you know who" bother you, I don't.
> It seems the longer you're on this list the more he dislikes you.
> 
> Don
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:29 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Takumar (Bayonet) 135/2.5
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Don.
>> 
>>> Though the common opinion seems to be that it is a terrible lens
>>> Christian seems to like it and I've read several other accounts of
>>> people being fond of it.
>> 
>> I think that both extremes that you mention are fairly "common".
>> 
>>> I admit that flare will be a problem without SMC, that's a given,
>>> contrast and sharpness seem good though.
>> 
>> And, because of these factors, it can make a pretty decent lens for
>> portraits, except for certain outdoor situations, perhaps.
>> 
>>> I've owned several 135/2.8s that were MUCH worse than this.
>> 
>> I'd rather use the Takumar Bayonet 135/2.5 than the A 135/2.8.
>> 
>>> The FA 138/2.8 actually doesn't seem a lot sharper, it does of
>>> course handle "sun in its face" much better.
>> 
>> I did some comparison shooting with the K 135/2.5 (my second
>> favorite 135) and the Tak Bayonet 135/2.5, and it was actually not
>> too easy to find a situation where the "cheapie" 135/2.5 was
>> woefully worse for flare.  There is a difference in coatings (and,
>> perhaps, internal blackening, and/or baffling - I don't know), but
>> the Tak Bayonet is not an uncoated piece of Coke bottle glass,
>> either.
>> 
>>> I have trouble buying the statement that this was designed as a
>>> "cheaply built consumer lens", the build quality seems excellent
>>> to me.
>> 
>> It's really not too bad, all in all, but the K 135/2.5 simply feels
>> a lot nicer in the hand, for my tastes.  (YMMV)
>> 
>>> Have I just not experienced a "Great" 135 or is this lens being
>>> unfairly treated?
>> 
>> It's easy to "kick around" an inexpensive lens, simply because it's
>> not a "premium" lens.  However, considering the price that they are
>> going for, I think that the Takumar Bayonet 135/2.5 gives a lot of
>> "bang for the buck".
>> 
>> If only it didn't have those silly multicolored markings on the
>> barrel...  <g>
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>> 
> 

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