Hi Marina,

Thanks for that suggestion, I like that idea. I assume that we would need to 
identify cases, where it makes sense to allow LSP creation (cases, where LSP is 
down temporarily and there is chance that it will go up later - e.g. ERO or 
BSID validation) and those, where it still makes sense to reject creation, 
because it is clear that such LSP will never go up (e.g. LSP with some 
unsupported feature enabled).

Can you (or other WG members) think about any other use cases for that flag? 
I'm just thinking if there can be any cases, which would not fit into group 
described above.

Regards,
Samuel

From: Marina Fizgeer <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, 3 August 2025 at 14:16
To: Andrew Stone (Nokia) <[email protected]>, 
[email protected] <[email protected]>, Samuel Sidor (ssidor) <[email protected]>
Cc: Dhruv Dhody <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: PCE WG Minutes for IETF 123

Hi, PCE WG, Samuel,

I have some thought/suggestion regarding the new D flag in the draft 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sidor-pce-binding-label-sid-extensions/.
I believe that it is a very good idea to have such a flag, which gives the 
option to set an LSP, even if it hasn't passed validation, in a down state.

I think it may be useful to expand the use of this flag to other cases and make 
it more generic.

As an example, today PCE-init LSP can only be established if the resolution was 
successful. This may cause performance issues in the case of creating multiple 
LSPs in the single PCEInit message.
Why not add such a flag in the case of creating a PCE-init LSP as well? If this 
flag is 'on' but the resolution fails, such an LSP will be set to a down state.

I think we can find other use cases where the use of this flag can be helpful 
and convenient.

What do you think?

Best regards,

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From: Andrew Stone (Nokia) <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2025 11:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Pce] PCE WG Minutes for IETF 123

Hi PCE WG,

Please find the minutes for PCE WG session at 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/123/materials/minutes-123-pce-202507250730-00

Thanks to those who contributed to the minutes.

Please reach out to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> in case any 
correction needs to be made.

Thanks,
Andrew (PCE Secretary)



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