Glenn ++

2014-11-06 20:51 GMT+01:00 Glenn Linderman <[email protected]>:

>  Lance,
>
> I'm sure you're very frustrated that you've tried a bunch of things that
> haven't worked, but Roderich has, for several years, nearly single-handedly
> been keeping the PAR project functioning. Remember he is not getting paid
> to do that, but does it as a volunteer. I've been monitoring this list for
> quite a few years, and remember when Roderich first started contributing to
> the project, and have seen years of his contributions... always helpful.
>
> Remember, that the best thing about computers is they do just what you
> tell them to do... and that is also the worst thing about computers.
>
> Granted, he can't visit everyone with a problem, and debug live on their
> machine... but he always has made helpful suggestions, based on the
> reported symptoms, and I don't recall anyone that hasn't been helped.
>
> Your first sentence in the quoted message below is _very_ offensive, and I
> wouldn't blame Roderich if he just flat quit responding to your messages,
> after saying that.
>
> Very often the best help comes from figuring out what you (in this case,
> you, Lance) did wrong, that prevents a functional system from functioning
> properly. If multiple versions of things don't work, then perhaps you have
> serious problems with the installation of your system. I haven't been
> attempting to follow the details of your problem, not being a Linux expert,
> but often times Linux distributions seriously lag the "bleeding edge" of
> new development... intentionally for stability... but that often means that
> a number of packages must be upgraded in order to get a particular other
> package to work. You may be facing such a situation.
>
> Blasting the only person that is likely to be able to help you through
> YOUR problem as being unhelpful, doesn't seem to be a productive way to
> solve YOUR problem. Remember, it is NOT Roderich's problem, it is YOUR
> problem. But he is likely to help you through it, if you work with him,
> instead of being offensive. Will he be able to resolve your problem today?
> I don't know. Will it take a month? Maybe. It depends on how seriously YOUR
> system is messed up, and how cooperative YOU are in providing information.
>
>
> On 11/6/2014 9:28 AM, Lance Gropper via RT wrote:
>
> Thu Nov 06 12:28:21 2014: Request 100090 was acted upon.
> Transaction: Correspondence added by [email protected]
>        Queue: PAR-Packer
>      Subject: Re: [rt.cpan.org #100090] PAR-Packer-1.023 Execution failure in 
> CentOS 6.2x64
>    Broken in: (no value)
>     Severity: (no value)
>        Owner: Nobody
>   Requestors: [email protected]
>       Status: rejected
>  Ticket <URL: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=100090 >
>
>
> At some point, you should try to be a little more helpful. You can see there
> is a problem with ScanDeps without running make test. I was requesting
> help - not requesting a description of what I did wrong. The version of
> ScanDeps which comes with CentOS 6.2x64 doesn't work (0.90), the latest one
> via yum doesn't work (0.92), the latest one on the internet (1.17) causes
> the problem you see below. None of them install with any problems.
> PAR-Packer-1.023 seems to only work with a specific version range (which
> isn't documented anywhere that I could find). The one I found which worked
> was version 0.97.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roderich Schupp via RT
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [rt.cpan.org #100090] PAR-Packer-1.023 Execution failure in CentOS
> 6.2x64
>
> <URL: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=100090 >
>
> Am 2014-11-05 18:42:45, [email protected] schrieb:
>
>  [root@QOS PAR-Packer-1.023]# pp
> Can't locate Module/Metadata.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /usr/local/lib64/perl5 /usr/local/share/perl5
> /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl
> /usr/lib64/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 .) at
> /usr/local/share/perl5/Module/ScanDeps.pm line 29.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
> /usr/local/share/perl5/Module/ScanDeps.pm line 29.
>
>  Module::ScanDeps isn't installed correctly - its Makefile.PL clearly states:
>
> requires        'Module::Metadata'          => '0';
>
> BTW, you obviously didn't run "make test" when installing PAR::Packer,
> otherwise you would have caught this earlier.
>
> Cheers, Roderich
>
>
>
> --
> Glenn
> ------------------------------
>  Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a
> mistake when you make it again. -- Franklin Jones
>

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