David Chmelik posted on Thu, 18 Dec 2025 06:44:26 -0000 (UTC) as excerpted:
[condensed: raw message file has 2010 date, groups file has...] >> >>> <9c6ed8db-d68d-4239-a9b5-31e3432d4...@q14g2000yqe.googlegroups.oom> >>> Critique this definition of mathematics Dan >>> Christensen <[email protected]> >>> 10756479085 >> >> This date is wrong and is in the far future: >> >> $ date -d @10756479085 Fri 11 Nov 07:51:25 CET 2310 [...] >> At this point, the group file is corrupted. I don't know how. It's >> possible that the nntp server returned bad time stamp. >> >> The easy solution is to remove the wrong entries (or the whole group >> file) and download again the headers. > [...] > > Okay, but it happened a second time to dozens newsgroups downloaded from > GigaNews, except not when I do in ThunderBird, so it may be a PAN2 > problem unless ThunderBird has error correction and it's a GigaNews > problem? I asked them and they said the problem is in the NNTP client > but technical support might've just been told to say so and not know... All this interesting thread I've been missing while I've been busy with a long-term project (umm, 1 yr into what's looking like a 3 year project) taking most of my time... This is reminding me of a header-folding bug from a few years ago, where pan was actually attempting to post messages with invalid headers and messages were getting refused or ignored on posting as a result. In that case it was usually attempted responses in long threads triggering the problem when the message-ID list in the References: header got long enough to need wrapped/folded. Turned out it was actually a gmime bug affecting only a specific release or two, and gmime had a new release fixing the bug pretty close to when we finally traced it to gmime, so those on slower-to- update distros mostly never had an affected gmime at all, while the rolling-release users saw it but got it fixed relatively quickly too. So any chance this date bug could be gmime date-processing or general header-processing related? Worth at least keeping in mind the possibility, if so. So not sure it's gmime, but might be worth comparing versions. FWIW, gmime-3.2.15 seems to be current, released in June of 2024 so ~18 months ago. https://github.com/jstedfast/gmime FWIW a quick look there at issues both open and closed doesn't turn up anything date specific, but there are several header-parsing issues including a more general discussion still open one and another closed/ fixed one mentioning pan specifically with bad Newsgroups: header parsing. (The Newsgroups: header one was May of 2024 so the fix should be in the current 3.2.15 from June 2024.) gmime-3.2.15 (gentoo -r1) is what I have here too, but I've not tested whether this date bug affects me or not (I've not seen it on gmane, but...). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
