Hi Duncan thanks for the suggestion. Does "reconfigure from scratch" mean removing and re-installing pan? After, of course, erasing all those files. The strange thing is, that I have pan on two laptops, one at work and one at home, and pan stopped working on both at about the same time.
Dieter On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 18:02, <pan-users-requ...@nongnu.org> wrote: > > Send Pan-users mailing list submissions to > pan-users@nongnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pan-users-requ...@nongnu.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pan-users-ow...@nongnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pan-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pan not working (Sarah Taylor) > 2. Re: Pan not working (Duncan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2023 14:37:32 -0400 > From: Sarah Taylor <sarah997...@gmail.com> > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Pan not working > Message-ID: > <CAAf8wBXHE2isWGt1YZzhSfONn84fzbNgA=bvbcvdfvtenkz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Do you have any newsgroups working at all? > > I have noticed something similar, but it looks to me like there is no > activity on a variety of newsgroups. On the other hand, there are a few > newsgroups I look at that do seem to be working, therefore I thought > (think?) that the problem is not Pan but with the newsgroups themselves. > > Sarah > > > > > On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 10:08 AM Dieter Britz <dieterhansbr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I have used Pan for years on my Ubuntu and Kubuntu laptops, > > but from a few months ago it stopped working - no newsgroups. > > If I subscribe to one, it seems to enter it in the list of groups but > > when I click on it, nothing happens, see the screenshot. > > > > I use eternal-september.org as the news server and am a > > subscriber - it all worked fine before until it died. > > > > What can be going on here? How do I get back on? > > > > Dieter > > _______________________________________________ > > Pan-users mailing list > > Pan-users@nongnu.org > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/pan-users/attachments/20230101/b4349ebd/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 06:37:59 -0000 (UTC) > From: Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Pan not working > Message-ID: <pan$d436b$ece4f161$c95999$442f3...@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dieter Britz posted on Sun, 1 Jan 2023 15:07:56 +0100 as excerpted: > > > I have used Pan for years on my Ubuntu and Kubuntu laptops, > > but from a few months ago it stopped working - no newsgroups. > > If I subscribe to one, it seems to enter it in the list of groups but > > when I click on it, nothing happens, see the screenshot. > > > > I use eternal-september.org as the news server and am a subscriber - it > > all worked fine before until it died. > > > > What can be going on here? How do I get back on? > > So based on the screenshot, the newsgroups are still listed, but all under > "other groups", none subscribed. And from your description, attempting to > subscribe a group seems to do so (presumably it's listed under subscribed > groups for that session), but clicking on it does nothing, and ... > implied ... quitting and restarting pan eliminates it from the subscribed > groups list, again putting it under other groups. Accurate description? > > That sounds very much like a corrupted file, likely either the newsrc file > (if there's more than one, servers.xml contains a server to newsrc map > among its other settings) or newsgroups.xov. These and other pan files > are normally found in pan's data dir, which is IIRC ~/.pan2 by default (if > the $PAN_HOME environmental var isn't set, which it has been for it must > be nearing two decades here, thus the "IIRC" qualifier). > > Before you start with pan's config it's a good idea to run (in a terminal) > a smartctl -AH on the drive containing that dir as well as an an fsck on > the partition, to ensure the drive and filesystem are in good health. > > Assuming that doesn't find bigger problems, if you don't care about losing > pan's config, state and cache, you can of course just delete the entire > dir and reconfigure from scratch, and the problem will likely be gone. > > But I never want to lose all that, plus I always want to figure out as far > as possible what went wrong so as to be better prepared if it happens > again, so I'd be more likely to back up the dir and delete/restore files/ > subdirs (with pan shut down each time I change what's there so it doesn't > rewrite corrupt data) until I find the file that's causing the problem. > Then I'll examine the file in a text editor (pan's config is text-based) > to see if I can tell what happened and possibly delete or edit only the > bad part, keeping in mind of course that I already made a backup that's > easy enough to restore and try again if I screw something up. > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. 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