Thank you Duncan for your extensive reply. Sorry about the typo, I usually check what I have written but this slipped past me. It should of course have been "type".
My first problem is the opposite to the one you have had; i.e. I don't see my own posting on the other machine. But thanks for the suggestion, will check that setting (if any). As for the other problem, I use news.eternal-september.org on both machines, so there should be the same behaviour on both. I might try uninstalling pan again, wiping .pan2/ and re-installing it. Regards Dieter On 2 August 2018 at 18:00, <pan-users-requ...@nongnu.org> wrote: > Send Pan-users mailing list submissions to > pan-users@nongnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pan-users-requ...@nongnu.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pan-users-ow...@nongnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pan-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Problems with pan installations (Duncan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 07:15:09 +0000 (UTC) > From: Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Problems with pan installations > Message-ID: <pan$ea683$969bae6a$b4f6b34a$4c540...@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dieter Britz posted on Wed, 01 Aug 2018 14:12:33 +0200 as excerpted: > >> I have two computers on which I have installed pan, one at work, Ubuntu >> 1604 and one at home, Kubuntu 18.04. After I install pan I then trpy in >> the newsgroups I want to subscribe to, and subscribe. > > Trpy? That's one "trippy" typo! You lost me. Here's hoping it's not > critical to the below... > >> One problem is with alt.os.linux.ubuntu. It works on both machines but a >> posting to it from one machine does not appear on the other. > > This sounds similar but not identical to a problem I had at one point, > where I was seeing only my own posts. Turns out that for some reason I > had toggled the show only my own posts option under View > Header Pane, > did what I wanted to do, then forgot about it and quit pan with the > option still enabled... so naturally when I restarted pan I could update > headers all I wanted and all I could see was my own posts! > > I felt rather stupid after figuring /that/ one out, for sure! [g] > > So check the sanity of the settings in view, header pane. > > Also, do you have any scores that might be inadvertently affecting things? > > And when you update headers, do any errors show up (the icon at the > bottom right turns red, click it for the log or view it using the event > log option on the file menu)? > > And... I've been assuming you use the same news server at both work and > home. If you're using different news servers, perhaps they don't have a > good peering path between them, or one may even be black-holing the other > (basically server politics, one server violates rules the other wants to > enforce, maybe it carries lots of spammers, so the other bans all posts > from it, or it could be that one is small and the bigger, more connected > one, wants money to peer...), so you post to one and it never gets to the > other server. > >> Another problem I have here at home is that some ngs work OK, >> but others, which work at work, do not. E.g. dk.kultur.sprog; It shows >> in a pale font, and every time I click on it, I am asked to get the new >> headers, but when I do, I do not get any postings. >> But other ngs work. What is special about these ngs that show pale? > > I'm not sure about the color as I long ago customized mine, but typically > not getting headers at all could be one of two things, both much more > likely if you're running different servers on each and tried to copy some > of the per-server data from one pan install to the other, tho they could > happen for other reasons as well: > > 1) Perhaps the configured server doesn't carry that group at all? > (Starting with a clean server config should fix this.) > > 2) Each server numbers messages in each group sequentially (tho not all > numbers need appear, some may be assigned numbers then deleted as spam or > canceled, etc.), and clients including pan typically track what messages > they've already seen using these sequential numbers. > > But different servers will have different number sequences, and > occasionally a server will reset numbering on its own (due to a database > change or reset, etc), so you can't use the read-message tracking for one > server on a different one. If the new server is ahead of the old one, > say it has todays posts as 1000-1010 while the old one pan was tracking > had number 500 as the latest, nothing appears wrong except you might see > a few messages over again. > > But if the new server has lower numbers, then pan thinks it has seen thru > say 1010, but the new server is only up to say 500, so pan thinks it has > seen everything in that group already and doesn't download anything. > > To fix this, find the corresponding newsrc file (should be in ~/.pan2/ > but if you have multiple servers configured you'll have several newsrc > files, one for each server, and you'll need to figure out which one goes > to which server, probably by using the info in servers.xml), open it in a > text editor (with pan closed, of course, and as always, making a backup > of the file first in case you screw things up and need to restore the > unedited copy is a good idea), then find the line listing the newsgroup > in question, and delete the numbers beside it. Save the file, reopen > pan, and it should now have forgotten which articles it thought it had > already read for that group and server. > > > There's also a bug of some sort that I've seen at least on the gmane > mail2news server, where cross-posts between groups interfere with one > group getting messages. I've never traced that one down, unfortunately, > but I've seen a couple clues in the gmane.discuss group suggesting it > might actually be specific to gmane and either the list2news service they > run or the server software they run. But because I've never traced it > down I don't know that for sure... So all I can do is mention it, and > hope you're not seeing it too (and if I'm lucky, someone else reading > this will have seen it too, on gmane or elsewhere, and know more about it > than I do, and if we're /really/ lucky, with note from everyone and some > devs reading too, maybe we'll get a patch to test as a fix!). > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. 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