On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:57:06 +0000, Duncan wrote: > Jim Henderson posted on Tue, 06 Jan 2015 06:30:12 +0000 as excerpted: > >> On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 04:10:09 +0000, Duncan wrote: >> >>> So if you test this, please post your results. =:^) >> >> Thanks for the detailed answer, Duncan - some of that I found with some >> experimentation, but ultimately, yeah, it didn't work the way I'd hoped >> it would. I might have to try using an intermediate server (something >> like the caching NNTP server that I can't remember the name of at the >> moment) where I can set up the overview to use it. > > Leafnode?
Yes, that's the one. :) Brain overload last night after a long day at work. :) > Meanwhile, just to confirm, arbitrary header scoring did work, but only > after downloading the messages and possibly manually triggering a > rescore, > correct? Hmmm, I didn't try a manual rescore, but the scoring that applied to a post that should have been affected didn't show up when I went to look at the rules applied. > Did you have to manually trigger the rescore, or did pan automatically > rescore after it downloaded the messages? > > And what size cache are you using? I predicted that at least if you had > to manually rescore, you'd need to have a cache large enough to keep the > set of messages you wanted to rescore, so pan would have the information > at hand when you told it to rescore. I normally work with a multi-GiB > cache and for binaries at least, after deleting the obvious no-interest > posts I download the remaining messages to cache for further processing, > so that wouldn't be a big deal here, but for people who keep the default > 10 MiB cache and routinely download and save in one go instead of > working from cache, it'd be a big change. I've got a 10 MB cache set, generally large enough to hold the messages I'm currently interested in in about 75 groups on various servers. > Meanwhile (2), your idea of using a caching news server triggered > another question I don't have an answer to. Running a local caching > news server and having pan access it is a setup most people won't have, > but it does have some interesting implications, the most obvious of > which is that pan could operate with little to no cache of its own (I'd > probably run a small pan cache and put it in tmpfs, so as not to hit > permanent storage at all in that case), since the entire server pan's > accessing would be local. Yep, I know a few people who use leafnode so they can use Pan, knode, or some other newsreader as an "offline" reader. > But your comments triggered this thought process and question: > > With control of the server as well, and thus its overview policy, you > could of course put whatever headers your interested in, in the > overview. Can pan's arbitrary header scoring use such non-default- > overview-header content if it's available in the overview, or must it > still cache the post in ordered to score on those headers, because it > doesn't expect them in the overview and thus simply doesn't check for > them at that point? > > Interesting question. The answer really doesn't matter to most, but it > would to those with servers that have a relatively liberal overview > policy, putting many headers in it, as well as to those who do run their > own server, either remote or local, and thus control what's in the > overview. That's kinda what I'm thinking as a fallback. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
