On Tue 27 Nov 2012 at 19:45:34 +0000, Duncan wrote: > I guess I could add a java VM, but last I checked, building it pulls in > at least cups (which in turn pulls in its own deps), which I don't need
In fact, to build java, you need a working java. The Sun sources have (apparently deliberately) been made extra difficult to bootstrap. Even though the core bytecode interpeter is written in C (or C++), the build system doesn't simply build that first to bootstrap a runtime system, which could in turn be used to compile libraries and stuff. The difficulties already start with the "self-extracting" sources, which need java to run (and hence extract). (After that, what is actually happening starts to get more difficult to follow, but it doesn't seem like the C code is compiled first.) For these stupid practical reasons, it has taken ages before NetBSD got a java environment that one can build natively. And even the first time around you need some bootstrapping with a Linux JRE running in a Linux emulation, or something like that. Entirely un-free. "Build once, run anywhere" is more like "run only where Sun has deigned to supply a java system". And Oracle is even worse. -Olaf. -- ___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert -- The Doctor: No, 'eureka' is Greek for \X/ rhialto/at/xs4all.nl -- 'this bath is too hot.' _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
