thufir posted on Wed, 03 Oct 2012 06:36:37 +0000 as excerpted: > At first the additional columns were squished to, I guess, a zero width, > but by stretching or shrinking the first column other columns then > became visible. Weird.
I've seen that a few times too (but not that I recall with pan), in three different types of instances. 1) The app had no way to toggle off a column but I didn't use it, so I made it zero-width. 2) A column judged to be for "expert" use. IIRC kde3's task list used to do this with PPID, since it already displayed PID, and had a "tree" option that would make parent (and thus its PID) obvious already. 3) Cases where an app changed config file format, and I was using the new version with the old config file. (A sub-case of this is when a toolkit- library such as gtk changes, thus changing the app's layout even if it's exactly the same app code only now built against and/or simply running with a new toolkit library; it doesn't have to be the /app's/ code that changes!) This last case is the one I was wondering about, since you'd just upgraded, thus my suggestion to test with a fresh user config if you'd kept /home and reused the same user config after the upgrade. Meanwhile, it's worth noting that in some, but not all cases, a zero- width column is hinted at in the GUI, if you know what to look for. It can be either a slightly different divider (like a double-divider) when they're stacked, or a different divider-hover-arrow. In kde and very possibly all qt apps, hovering over the divider shows a divider-arrow, like this: <-|-> ... instead of the normal simple double-headed arrow. The kde app I just tried wouldn't let me zero-width a column, but IIRC, where it's possible to have zero-width columns and thus stacked dividers, kde/qt changes to: <-||-> That makes it a bit easier to discover and expand the hidden columns, but you still have to hover in the right spot, so either having a minimum width of something like a half a character, or having a distinctive divider symbol for stacked dividers in the title row, makes finding the hidden columns even easier. But FWIW, tho kde/qt apps give me the "divider arrow", gtk2 apps only give me the usual double-headed arrow. I don't have gtk3 installed, so I can't say what it does. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
