{I sent this to a net-friend, and thought it would help further explain what I need to do to "jump ship"}
Hi, I am recalling a few details I've had in my long history when dealing with other people's PC machines especially the owner/friend of a house I was renting (he had a brain aneurysm and passed away several years ago). His PC was full of lil interface chips made mostly by VIA. Some chips were from other makers. Usually a BIOS upgrade will take care of all those chips as well but I found many lil firmware-upgrade pgms on the vendor's websites depending on the part-numbers on those chips. (That's why I say EVERYTHING has firmware in it these days.) I had to take-apart his machine to inspect them by eyeball (verify part-numbers etc). And sure-'nuf most of his chips were quite back-level. What's more, the descriptions of the upgrades were mostly spot-on with the problems he was having. So the "fixes" were not in win-xp (at the time) nor in the BIOS upgrades but in the chips themselves. I had logged every single itty-bitty thing I did, esp'ly how to dig-thru the vendor's websites etc, but of course nowadays those notes are all lost. I couldn't explain to anyone just how much work I have LOST since no-one would deal with the situations I was in (medically etc). Anyway, for my current project of "jumping off Apple's ship", I need that level detail on whatever hardware I'm to be buying because I do not want to be in that kind of situation. This kind of detail is what's needed to be sure a *ix system has the code to deal with all those lil interfaces, see. I need to be able to access such info BEFORE I buy anything, see. "Lest the buyer beware" kinda thing. I know most people won't deal with all this minutiae stuff. I guess ya gotta be a "true geek" to luv this kinda work. But with me it is homework very-well worthwhile spent. It can turn a ditched garbaged machine into one that works top-notch. It also saves ur @$$ too many times. lol The chips/designs used by Apple is probably why I can't boot-up any "normal" Boot-CD such as Hirens or even the various Linux "Live CDs", etc. Something isn't programming Apple's chips quite right somehow and the problem results in the way the CD can't access my keyboard/mouse. ALL of those boot-cds have that SAME problem here. There seems to be something inside Apple's "Boot Camp" special app that deals with this situation somehow, me thinks. But that app will carve-out another partition on the internal drive and I cannot allow it to do that no matter what-else it does (modify the EFI/BIOS maybe??). BTW another person is having the same stuck-'h' (semi-repeating key) problem I am having with any X11 app (only, not in regular OSX "native" apps), but he's seeing it with the 'wine' project (he might not know deep-down wine needs x11 routines as well coming from Apple). (It kinda feels good in a way to know I am not crazy in this regard lol) So, can you-all see where I'm at in this whole project to "jump ship"? I need to do TONS of research at very micro levels of both the hardware level and the o.s. level. I guess I need to find a BBS/forum somewhere that deals with this kind of subject matter. Does anyone have any info along these lines? I'd definitely appreciate it. "It works" won't be a sufficient phrase with me when dealing with these vendors. Because Apple "just works", too. Yeah … riiiight. ;) _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users